3 ms·
Related: There's also Ladybird that is developing quickly and is aiming for an alpha release this year. It's a truly independent browser engine built from scrat
by thebiblelover7 1mo ago
Related: There's also Ladybird that is developing quickly and is aiming for an alpha release this year. It's a truly independent browser engine built from scratch.
https://ladybird.org/ https://ladybird.org/
- SirHumphrey 1mo agoThis is mentioned under every Firefox discussion despite being possibly years away from being generally useful if the will ever progress to that point. It’s not really a feasible alternative.
- bastawhiz 1mo agoIf the goal is browser diversity, is the answer really Firefox? Or is it one of the active in development projects from people who are motivated to do something new? What exactly is Firefox going to do differently to grow its market share? Or just "more of whatever the last fifteen years have been"? Unless they have a plan to do better it seems foolish to trust that they'll steer the project miraculously towards success.
- cubefox 1mo ago> If the goal is browser diversity, is the answer really Firefox? Or is it one of the active in development projects from people who are motivated to do something new? The former. Ladybird is currently not practically usable, it is unclear whether it will ever catch up to the main engines, and even if it does, it is unclear whether it will ever reach the market share that Firefox has. It is a nice project but science fiction at this point.
- em-bee 1mo agoladybird is passing more than 90% of the browser test suite. that's not science fiction.
- cubefox 1mo agoHow much does Firefox pass? 99.99%?
- glenstein 1mo agoRight. I think the "last mile" compliance is where it gets most challenging.
- asadotzler 1mo agothe acid test is surfing the web. it doesn't matter how many tests it passes if users can't get to the sites they want and use them the way they want because their browser doesn't support some feature properly or because gets rejected by the sites for not being Chrome/Safari/Firefox.
- em-bee 1mo agoif sites break despite passing all tests then the tests would be incomplete. as for detecting that the browser is not chrome/safari/firefox, the days where you could trust the user agent value to reliably identify a browser are long gone. ladybird will just have a value that will make it pass any checks.
- Fizz43 1mo agoPassing tests and has abysmal performance on basic web features. Not to mention how many security issues are present. Its unserious to suggest it as an alternative at this stage. It make people think they dont have to support firefox because there is alternatives just around the corner.
- em-bee 1mo agonobody is suggesting that it is a viable alternative, i am just arguing that it is not imaginary science fiction either
- HaloZero 1mo agoWhat’s the real selling point? Yeah non profit but is it gonna be faster and better than WebKit? The reason I switched to chrome a long time ago was tab isolation, how much faster it was than Firefox, and built it better developer tools. What’s ladybug got going for it?
- em-bee 1mo agocompletely independent development. not based on any existing browser. we need more browser variety.
- HaloZero 1mo agoMost people don't care about that though. My wife doesn't care about browser independence. If Ladybird wants to more than just a pet project for some tech companies it needs a sell. Something that makes it better than Chrome.
- em-bee 1mo agoladybird is way to early in development to sell itself to anyone except developers who might want to contribute to it. they need to get it working first before they can think about interesting features that might make it attractive. it's not the time for that yet
- figmert 1mo agoI just wish Ladybird can do what Electron currently does, but with much better resources. Especially in today's age where memory is so expensive.