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> I forgot to sign out of my personal Gmail Never, ever, ever sign into personal mail/messaging on work machines. Even the appearance of having done so just se

> I forgot to sign out of my personal Gmail Never, ever, ever sign into personal mail/messaging on work machines. Even the appearance of having done so just sets up for bad things. This was kinda iffy 20 years ago, now its crazy to do. We all have phones now, there's no good reason to do this.

morkalork 1mo ago
Hell, some employers are even helpful enough to block gmail, yahoo etc domains on their network.
- Muromec 1mo ago
  I can't open pretty much anything, including shoghoth face and linked in, but thankfully this imageboard and YouTube are spared. I still wonder how the powers that be didn't bother to ban npm on dev machines
mathisfun123 1mo ago
> Never, ever, ever sign into personal mail/messaging on work machines apple explicitly encourages their employees to do exactly this - it's called "carry"ing your work device.
- morganw 1mo ago
  encourages, but doesn’t require. My work phone is an iPhone 14 that I only use for Slack notifications & to check the next day’s schedule when I don’t want to bother opening their laptop.
  - mathisfun123 1mo ago
    i don't see your point - my point is apple actively encourages this thing that is being painted as terrible character flaw.
    - morganw 1mo ago
      When Ashley Gjovik was fired, she complained the pressure to use work devices for personal stuff was considerable. I stopped carrying back then & haven’t felt any pressure. A “carry” or “live on” device doesn’t have to be used for personal email and messages. It should just be used for more real-world non-test workloads. The lessons of only testing iPhone 4 in stealth cases hasn’t been forgottten. I do agree that Apple likes to have it both ways, though.
      - mathisfun123 1mo ago
        > I stopped carrying back then & haven’t felt any pressure. if you're who i suspect you are, then you're being wholly disingenuous because you're not a dev. for a dev there is much more pressure.
        morganw 1mo ago
        Who I am is right there in the username (morganw), submissions & comments: Morgan Woodson. Not in SWE. Is it software if you write it in the hardware division? Edited to add that I think EPMs are under more pressure to be Apple cheerleader than engineers.
itake 1mo ago
you're not wrong, but its really annoying carrying 2 laptops and 2 phones and 2 charging bricks [0]. Especially when work picks out the 16.2" laptop for you. [0] - Yes, I know there are 3rd party multi-port USB-C charging products, but the wattage isn't as high as having 2 different bricks.

morkalork 1mo ago

Hell, some employers are even helpful enough to block gmail, yahoo etc domains on their network.

Muromec 1mo ago
I can't open pretty much anything, including shoghoth face and linked in, but thankfully this imageboard and YouTube are spared. I still wonder how the powers that be didn't bother to ban npm on dev machines

mathisfun123 1mo ago

> Never, ever, ever sign into personal mail/messaging on work machines apple explicitly encourages their employees to do exactly this - it's called "carry"ing your work device.

morganw 1mo ago
encourages, but doesn’t require. My work phone is an iPhone 14 that I only use for Slack notifications & to check the next day’s schedule when I don’t want to bother opening their laptop.
- mathisfun123 1mo ago
  i don't see your point - my point is apple actively encourages this thing that is being painted as terrible character flaw.
  - morganw 1mo ago
    When Ashley Gjovik was fired, she complained the pressure to use work devices for personal stuff was considerable. I stopped carrying back then & haven’t felt any pressure. A “carry” or “live on” device doesn’t have to be used for personal email and messages. It should just be used for more real-world non-test workloads. The lessons of only testing iPhone 4 in stealth cases hasn’t been forgottten. I do agree that Apple likes to have it both ways, though.
    - mathisfun123 1mo ago
      > I stopped carrying back then & haven’t felt any pressure. if you're who i suspect you are, then you're being wholly disingenuous because you're not a dev. for a dev there is much more pressure.
      - morganw 1mo ago
        Who I am is right there in the username (morganw), submissions & comments: Morgan Woodson. Not in SWE. Is it software if you write it in the hardware division? Edited to add that I think EPMs are under more pressure to be Apple cheerleader than engineers.

itake 1mo ago

you're not wrong, but its really annoying carrying 2 laptops and 2 phones and 2 charging bricks [0]. Especially when work picks out the 16.2" laptop for you. [0] - Yes, I know there are 3rd party multi-port USB-C charging products, but the wattage isn't as high as having 2 different bricks.