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Why not computer use or using the tools the user prefers instead? The primary office suites have APIs/CLIs now

tyre 2mo ago
Computer use is slow and can take control of the application focus. I’ll be doing things while Claude runs in the background. Suddenly it decides to open the app and try to do something + screenshot it.
- verdverm 2mo ago
  That's where the CLIs come in for me, I'm not going to waste tokens on screenshots and input device manipulation https://devblogs.microsoft.com/microsoft365dev/getting-started-office365-cli-powershell/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/microsoft365dev/getting-start... https://github.com/googleworkspace/cli https://github.com/googleworkspace/cli
- ChickeNES 2mo ago
  I don't know how many times I've had to yell at codex or claude to use/implement headless versions of whatever it's doing at the time, interrupts me trying to multitask and play Battlefield or Factorio while they work :P
  - verdverm 2mo ago
    don't try Dyson sphere project (/s, its acrually really great), but maybe try x4 foundations, I'm contemplating how I might have my agent help manage my empire
  - 1718627440 2mo ago
    Can't you run this under a different user or in the same, but with another instance of the desktop server?
  - rcxdude 2mo ago
    Another good reason to sandbox them into a VM :P
- cjav_dev 2mo ago
  Runs in the background now https://x.com/ClaudeDevs/status/2095226982644830648 https://x.com/ClaudeDevs/status/2095226982644830648
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johnsmith1840 2mo ago
If you've ever actually gone down this route you will try exactly this realize how much of a cluster f these products are and just use libre. I did the exact same thing in my AI system. Spent an ENOURMOUS amount of time trying everything I could and in the end libre was the only thing even somewhat functional. Easily 2 months of my life lost to these god forsaken systems. APIs and CLIs sound reasonable until you actually attempt anything in this space. Computer use is exactly the same thing. Go try this: go to a google doc and dev tools check out the dom and now do the same for a word doc. Eye gouging pain of trying to get anything to work.

tyre 2mo ago

Computer use is slow and can take control of the application focus. I’ll be doing things while Claude runs in the background. Suddenly it decides to open the app and try to do something + screenshot it.

verdverm 2mo ago
That's where the CLIs come in for me, I'm not going to waste tokens on screenshots and input device manipulation https://devblogs.microsoft.com/microsoft365dev/getting-started-office365-cli-powershell/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/microsoft365dev/getting-start... https://github.com/googleworkspace/cli https://github.com/googleworkspace/cli
ChickeNES 2mo ago
I don't know how many times I've had to yell at codex or claude to use/implement headless versions of whatever it's doing at the time, interrupts me trying to multitask and play Battlefield or Factorio while they work :P
- verdverm 2mo ago
  don't try Dyson sphere project (/s, its acrually really great), but maybe try x4 foundations, I'm contemplating how I might have my agent help manage my empire
- 1718627440 2mo ago
  Can't you run this under a different user or in the same, but with another instance of the desktop server?
- rcxdude 2mo ago
  Another good reason to sandbox them into a VM :P
cjav_dev 2mo ago
Runs in the background now https://x.com/ClaudeDevs/status/2095226982644830648 https://x.com/ClaudeDevs/status/2095226982644830648

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johnsmith1840 2mo ago

If you've ever actually gone down this route you will try exactly this realize how much of a cluster f these products are and just use libre. I did the exact same thing in my AI system. Spent an ENOURMOUS amount of time trying everything I could and in the end libre was the only thing even somewhat functional. Easily 2 months of my life lost to these god forsaken systems. APIs and CLIs sound reasonable until you actually attempt anything in this space. Computer use is exactly the same thing. Go try this: go to a google doc and dev tools check out the dom and now do the same for a word doc. Eye gouging pain of trying to get anything to work.