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Getting Started with AT Protocol
- alfanick 28d agoOh, it's some different AT protocol (some distributed mambojambo) than Hayes AT protocol.
- thesuitonym 28d agoYeah I was super confused for a minute, wondering what cool and fun use someone found for this old protocol.
- reaperducer 28d agoIt's been extended to include connecting SSH sessions. It's been a few years, but it's something like ATDS"username:password@host:port"
- gatio 28d ago+++ATH0+++ ... good times
- exabrial 28d agoAT ATZ AT&F ATDT5551234
- cbdevidal 28d agoMy first job in IT was at AOL tech support and we could rattle off AT modem strings from memory :)
- cbdevidal 28d agoSomeone also posted a link to the Hayes command set and I was glad. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49567961 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49567961
- wslh 28d agoFunny how this rhymes with something I wrote in 2011[1][2]: a "universal spreadsheet" where people share not just data but the transformations over it. The pieces are more real now: you can actually free your data from closed services (e.g. Instagram), orchestrate it on something like ATProto, and LLMs make a great new kind of "function" for the system. [1] https://blog.databigbang.com/ideas-egont-a-web-orchestration-language/ https://blog.databigbang.com/ideas-egont-a-web-orchestration... [2] https://blog.databigbang.com/egont-part-ii/ https://blog.databigbang.com/egont-part-ii/
- verdverm 28d agoMost people right now do not want their social media data in world/anonymous-read mode nor want Ai accessing it and doing things with it.
- wslh 28d agoNothing about this requires world-readable data, privacy can be its own layer. FriendFeed[1] did this well back in the day: it aggregated your feeds and let you control who saw each one. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FriendFeed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FriendFeed
- verdverm 28d agoI agree, that's just not where ATProtocol is (currently only available in world/anonymous-read mode). Personally, I find the permission proposal rather lacking (ACL vs the advancements / learning since) and user requested features will require building auth enhancements at the app level, thereby creating a form of centralization.
- wslh 28d ago> thereby creating a form of centralization. Fair point on app-level auth, still far less centralized than the status quo, where the data, the permissions, and every function on top all belong to one company.
- ternaryoperator 28d agoYou’ll get more traction, by stating way up top what AT is and who should care about it.
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- CharlesW 28d agoDo you know of something better than the first link in TFA?
- sltkr 28d agoYou shouldn't have to click away from a blog post to understand what the blog post is about. It should start with a clear self-contained introduction. atproto.com contains a succinct discription: > Atproto is a big-world open social protocol. Users publish JSON records into repositories. The changestreams of those records then sync across the network to drive applications. Still a bit abstract, but OK. Personally I would include that AT protocol stands for Authenticated Transfer Protocol and that it is the protocol powering Bluesky.
- radicalriddler 28d agoSpaces really is gonna bring all the features that HN is critical about AT platforms like Tangled. Private repos are now on the horizon. Huzzah!
- smasher164 28d agoOne thing I'm wondering is how ATproto can be integrated with voice/video chat. Would you combine it with Matrix, XMPP, or some custom protocol?
- Arathorn 28d agoOne trick we've been playing with on the Matrix side is figuring out how to tunnel encrypted Matrix over other transports - so you could absolutely use it, layered on top of ATproto spaces, as a way to get E2EE DMLS metadata-protected realtime voice/video/chat but tied to ATproto DIDs and permissions. We're in the final stages of (at last) finalising MatrixRTC, the E2EE group voip stuff in Matrix, which would pair nicely with this. The "portable Matrix" idea is currently nicknamed Tachyon, and is earlier stage at this point, although I did a Matrix Live about it a few months back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc7yfec3iIQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc7yfec3iIQ
- skybrian 28d agoBluesky has live video but it's a Twitch stream. ATProto itself is about databases and ways to replicate them. You can store pictures and videos there, but you wouldn't normally use a database replication protocol to actually transmit live video.
- shakna 27d ago> but you wouldn't normally use a database replication protocol to actually transmit live video. Unless you're Teams. Which... Is probably evidence for the above.
- smasher164 27d ago> you wouldn't normally use a database replication protocol to actually transmit live video Right, I'm more concerned about the areas where there's overlap between atproto and matrix, like with identity and authentication, for example.
- pfraze 28d ago"A bad idea until you think about it" https://www.voxport.live/e/cmtn9ea7z00pirnhvyor4kji2 https://www.voxport.live/e/cmtn9ea7z00pirnhvyor4kji2
- maremmano 28d agoATDT
- gerdesj 28d agoshhh ATDT&L0&M0
- simsch 26d agothanks for not explaining once what at protocol is supposed to mean even.