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https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/block-ads-firefox-ios#w_does-ad-blocking-affect-search-engine-ads:~:text=list%2E-,Does,blocked%2E https://support.mozilla.o
by OptionOfT 2mo ago
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/block-ads-firefox-ios#w_does-ad-blocking-affect-search-engine-ads:~:text=list%2E-,Does,blocked%2E https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/block-ads-firefox-ios#w...
> Does ad blocking affect search engine ads?
> No. Ads shown on search engine results pages are not blocked.
A lot of the search results on top of Google are there to scam you, providing phone numbers for pass through services that charge $ for it, like flight cancellation:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1p6h81i/beware_fake_airline_support_numbers_on_google/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1p6h81i/beware_fake_...
So this omission should absolutely be addressed, but they probably cannot because of the Google Search contract...
- dest 2mo agoIf only we could pay for Firefox so they could get rid of that Google funding…
- metalliqaz 2mo agohas any browser ever made that work? Opera has to be the most popular by a mile and even they couldn't keep that business model going
- dest 2mo agoNot in my knowledge. It would be hard to have the same amount of funding as they have now from Google.
- lexicality 2mo agoespecially when you pay your executives 7 figure salaries
- brewdad 2mo agoThat’s what a good executive costs these days. You could try to hire a CEO for $100,000/yr with the expected quality of applicants.
- lexicality 2mo ago> That’s what a good executive costs these days. maybe they should go get some then
- account42 2mo agoGood executives that have achieved an ever shrinking market share while continuing to piss of enthusiast users? At this point they could pay someone with zero experience minimum wage and would probably do no worse. Have you considered that a "good executive" (i.e. someone good at maximizing shareholder values and his own compensation) is the last person Firefox needs?
- johanyc 2mo agoPeople just expect browsers to be free. And there's no way that can be more than Google money.
- schubidubiduba 2mo agoThat's because browsers should be free. They are infrastructure, just like bridges. And nobody wants a bridge troll sitting on the single bridge crossing the internet river, demanding money from everyone.
- ferngodfather 2mo agoI mean, bridge tolls are absolutely a thing.
- edoceo 2mo agoMy area has roads w/o bridges that have a toll.
- rightnutwingjob 2mo agoIf things keep going as they are, my area will soon have a bridge, several bridges, and no roads. But it will still have tolls.
- shric 2mo agoBridges are not free
- al_borland 2mo agoOrion (by Kagi) is still new, but seems to be trying.
- shakow 2mo agoOrion is webkit-based though, not a whole independent browser like FFox.
- plausibility 2mo agoTo be fair, Firefox on iOS is also WebKit based thanks to Apples’s rules. Much of a muchness in this aspect.
- shakow 2mo agoI'm not criticizing Orion for that; I actually enjoy it quite a lot (and will do even more when they will have ironed out all the UI bugs). Also I'm eager to see how it will behave on Linux when they will have finished their port; I hope we will finally have a really low-energy consumption browser then.
- yubblegum 2mo agoWhat exactly is the problem? I understand a browser is a complex program but is the claim it is impossible to build a browser without continual dependence on advertising toxic dollars?
- makeitdouble 2mo ago> a browser is a complex program A browser in the class of Firefox or Chrome is for all intents and purposes a full OS constantly exposed to the world. I understand open source OS development to be sustainable thanks to the the effort put into the server farms. That doesn't work for client side software, with the additional hurdle of needing to be better than the ad funded browser.
- teekert 2mo agoMy Linux kernel is not riddled with ads? Maybe companies should see browsers more as a the Linux kernel, a precompetitive commodity layer on top of which we deliver/extract value to/from users.
- palata 2mo ago> My Linux kernel is not riddled with ads? And Firefox is not riddled with ads. The websites it loads are. If you run a program that shows ads on your Linux distro, the Linux kernel won't block them, will it?
- yubblegum 2mo agoDoes your hypothetical kernel make it easy or difficult for you to install add-ons that block ads? Does the organization that build it have a conflict of interest regarding advertisting/surveillance interests such as Google/Meta/...?
- palata 2mo agoNot sure what your point is. My comparison was not made to be stretched infinitely. Next question may be "does your kernel render web pages?", but I don't see where it is going. But to give an answer: if you wanted to bake an ad-blocker in the Linux kernel that would prevent programs from showing ads in a transparent way (the ads just don't show and the programs still work and look fine), I think it would not be trivial at all. But I don't see the point of going down that discussion.
- nottorp 2mo ago... if only their donation links would let you specify your donation goes to Firefox development and no other mozilla service ...
- NoMoreNicksLeft 2mo agoIf only we could open source it and load it onto the phone with Sideloadly.
- tgv 2mo agoYeah, if everyone gave $10, that would get them at least $50.
- illiac786 2mo agoLOL (and I love ff)
- tgv 2mo agoMe too, but we are few. Google paid $585M in 2024. I don't think Mozilla can get 58 million users to pay $10 each. That might even exceed the FF user base. Even if they could, they would use it as extra money, not to get rid of Google.
- janlaureys 2mo agoThere's dozens of us ! So 120$ should be pretty realistic.
- Meneth 2mo agoMozilla has had a lot of funding over the years. They wasted most of it on useless side-projects. If, instead, they had saved up into a foundation, they could have been financially independent like a decade ago. Do not try to pay for Firefox; they'll just waste that too.
- Itoldmyselfso 2mo agoJust.. use different search engine? Startpage if you still want the Google's search results but with vastly superior privacy
- qwerpy 2mo agoAlso they say they will continue to show Firefox’s sponsored links and ads. So, they’ll continue to show first party ads and google’s ads? And likely they won’t be able to keep up with meta’s anti ad blocking. That’s most ads on the internet. No thanks, I’ll stick to ublock origin lite on safari.
- thesuitonym 2mo agoThere's no reason to block Firefox's sponsored links because you can just turn those off if you don't want to see them.
- Brian_K_White 2mo agoThere's no reason to hope there is a way to tell a particular source of ads to turn itself off when you can just use a non-gimped ad block on a non-gimped platform and block all ads without caring if any of them are cooperative or adversarial.
- account42 2mo agoYou don't see the hypocrisy in blocking other people's ads while showing your own as well those of partners that fund you?
- cpeterso 2mo agoFirefox on iOS is blocking third-party ads, not first-party ads.
- qingcharles 2mo agoA neighbor came to ask for help today. He got locked out of his Facebook account and was getting impatient with their AI, so he Googled "facebook support number" clicked on the first link (almost certainly an ad) and called the number. The person on the other end apparently told him they needed access to his bank accounts to verify his identity and you know the rest of the story.
- cryptonym 2mo agoHow is Alphabet not responsible this? They push ads for scams at the top and earn money from it. That should be 100% on them to reimburse, then go after the scammers.
- inigyou 2mo agoThey can only be held responsible if a scam victim sues them.
- BodyCulture 2mo agoIt’s basically the official business model of the US now, have you spent the last two years on a yacht without contact to the world?
- KellyCriterion 2mo agoBut what about the receiving account of the money? Somewhere in the chain they will need to access the money?
- thewhitetulip 2mo agoI started getting tai chi walking ads on youtube a few weeks ago and then I saw a video about how it's a massive scam.