> minecraft is fun and engaging It depends, for me it is boring and has pretty dim graphics. I wanted to love it, but it is not fun. It looks like a Sims game,

> minecraft is fun and engaging It depends, for me it is boring and has pretty dim graphics. I wanted to love it, but it is not fun. It looks like a Sims game, it lacks what e.g. factorio has, that "spark". DF sounds like it might have that "spark", but I'm afraid to touch it.