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Palmer Luckey's heated exchange with Paul Graham

11 points by jakubadamw 1mo ago

andsoitis 1mo ago
Is he wrong? PaulG’s question “why did you give these jobs to foreigners” is childish.
- jakubadamw 1mo ago
  No, I think he is right.
  - andsoitis 1mo ago
    You could have picked a headline: ”Palmer Luckey takes on Paul Graham who questions hiring foreigners”
    - jakubadamw 1mo ago
      You're right, I changed it a little.
harmonic18374 1mo ago
I don't agree with Palmer much, but he loves America and wants the best for it. Though YC started well, it has since degraded startup culture and turned founding into a short-term, status-driven, sexist boys' club, full of get-rich-quick grifters, and now PG has left the country that made him so he'll never have to reckon with what he created. Of course he would say this because he won't reckon with the idea that there's more to life than making number go up, all your silly morals or fealties are second to almighty "growth". He's too successful to ever have to think about it.
- Jonathanvw 1mo ago
  Can you point to some conclusive evidence that YC has degraded in the way you described other than some bad eggs, which is expected as they have scaled enormously.
beardyw 1mo ago
> even if they are "the most qualified" Well are they or aren't they?
- rus20376 1mo ago
  PG has had a license to print visas. Fund a company whose founders are from outside the US and they basically get an automatic “genius” visa. This has not gone unnoticed by wealthy parents who, via the usual quid pro quo agreements have had stunning success in getting their kid’s/nephew’s/cousin’s roommate accepted into YC. No qualifications other than cutting a check required.
wozer 1mo ago
Using words like “traitor” so casually, and now saying that pg is “gone” (https://x.com/PalmerLuckey/status/2094639434436427911 https://x.com/PalmerLuckey/status/2094639434436427911)... From my European perspective, Luckey just comes across as an anti-democratic Trumpist. I don’t understand why pg even engages with people like that.

11 points by jakubadamw 1mo ago

andsoitis 1mo ago

Is he wrong? PaulG’s question “why did you give these jobs to foreigners” is childish.

jakubadamw 1mo ago
No, I think he is right.
- andsoitis 1mo ago
  You could have picked a headline: ”Palmer Luckey takes on Paul Graham who questions hiring foreigners”
  - jakubadamw 1mo ago
    You're right, I changed it a little.

harmonic18374 1mo ago

I don't agree with Palmer much, but he loves America and wants the best for it. Though YC started well, it has since degraded startup culture and turned founding into a short-term, status-driven, sexist boys' club, full of get-rich-quick grifters, and now PG has left the country that made him so he'll never have to reckon with what he created. Of course he would say this because he won't reckon with the idea that there's more to life than making number go up, all your silly morals or fealties are second to almighty "growth". He's too successful to ever have to think about it.

Jonathanvw 1mo ago
Can you point to some conclusive evidence that YC has degraded in the way you described other than some bad eggs, which is expected as they have scaled enormously.

beardyw 1mo ago

> even if they are "the most qualified" Well are they or aren't they?

rus20376 1mo ago
PG has had a license to print visas. Fund a company whose founders are from outside the US and they basically get an automatic “genius” visa. This has not gone unnoticed by wealthy parents who, via the usual quid pro quo agreements have had stunning success in getting their kid’s/nephew’s/cousin’s roommate accepted into YC. No qualifications other than cutting a check required.

wozer 1mo ago

Using words like “traitor” so casually, and now saying that pg is “gone” (https://x.com/PalmerLuckey/status/2094639434436427911 https://x.com/PalmerLuckey/status/2094639434436427911)... From my European perspective, Luckey just comes across as an anti-democratic Trumpist. I don’t understand why pg even engages with people like that.