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> radio for discovery Would you be willing to share a bit more about this setup? The only thing keeping my on streaming is the fact that its almost impossible

by nan60 1mo ago

> radio for discovery Would you be willing to share a bit more about this setup? The only thing keeping my on streaming is the fact that its almost impossible to find new music otherwise. I know LastFM exists but it just doesn't click for me the way that streaming does. I like discovering music organically.

dylan604 1mo ago
> radio for discovery was a big question mark I had as well. The Clear Channel and iHeart stations are not known for discovery. Now if you find a college station or by some miracle an independent station you can get some new stuff. My favorite local college station is also ad free. They also have an app which I lean on as it's not the strongest transmitter so their coverage is spotty. Maybe there's other indy stations with apps as well??
- BLKNSLVR 1mo ago
  This radio station is local to the city I live in, and they've been great for music discovery for me, although heavy focus on local artists, but they've put me onto a few international artists as well. https://threedradio.com/ https://threedradio.com/ I subscribe to them, have done so for ~10 years I reckon. I don't listen as much as I used to, but I want them to continue existing either way. Be aware, the quality of their playlists is incredibly variable, but that's part of the charm. I guarantee you'll hear something you haven't heard before... for better or worse. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zHR0HMFY60 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zHR0HMFY60 (with 2 minutes of silence at the start to, presumably, avoid auto-copyright claims).
  - BLKNSLVR 26d ago
    This may be long dead, but a relatively recent musical discovery I've come across is Nando's. They play some great Southern American music, with real nice vibes and beats. My Shazam usage is about 75% Nando's. And I don't mean Southern United States, I mean real, geographical definition South American. There's even a pretty long playlist someone has curated, specifically called Nando's Music: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0kgcsnicEnZYjaU3zoGbU5?si=Off72d9LQ1qHnSQm--ev-g https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0kgcsnicEnZYjaU3zoGbU5?si=...
- mcmcmc 1mo ago
  Public radio is great, NPR and the member stations have some great streaming channels. KEXP and KCRW are two favs
- wilted-iris 1mo ago
  I believe there are! I consistently hear good things about KEXP and FIP but I haven’t listened to either extensively. I listen to a lot of SomaFM (free, https://somafm.com/ https://somafm.com/) and the Flow State radio-podcast (paid, https://www.flowstate.fm/ https://www.flowstate.fm/).
  - GaProgMan 1mo ago
    I would always recommend KEXP. They have a really varied set of shows and setlists, don't seem to be swayed by "we must play the top 40", genuinely care about music, and are super nice if you head into the building in Seattle (which has a public access space, coffee shop, bathrooms, and a SubPop store). I've had three tours around the place just by telling the folks there that Im there from out of town. To be fair, I might have gotten the tours because I came all the way over from England the times, but it's my favourite place to hang out when I'm in Seattle. Also Ken is the nicest guy ever, and he introduced me to Larry Mizzel Jr while he was broadcasting live. Get the app, or use the player on their website, and hive then a try for an hour or do. The app has the ability to "heart" a track while it's playing live, which helps with discovery.
- keyringlight 1mo ago
  Internet radio is still going strong: https://www.radio-browser.info/ https://www.radio-browser.info/
  - l72 1mo ago
    Wow this is amazing. I can't believe shoutcast still exists too!! I have fond memories of hosting a shoutcast stream at very low bandwidth over dialup! There seems to be a few decent apps in F-droid and lots of stations with no ads and very specific genres like just depressive black metal!
  - mrguyorama 1mo ago
    Technobase.fm was my gateway drug to EDM when all I otherwise had access to was rock and roll and country. There used to be Neradio as well, but they died like a decade ago.
- frogulis 1mo ago
  RRR and PBS in Melbourne both stream online and are both fantastic for music discovery. Go the former if you lean indie and the latter if you lean international.
bubblemoth 1mo ago
I left spotify around two years ago for a self hosted option (I mostly use navidrome+feishin). Music discovery was a concern for me as well, but then I realized that I didn't like the idea of spotify curating which music I discovered. So far, this is what has worked for me: - Actually listening to the music I have now. I think the art of listening through full albums has slowly died, but there is so much music we're ignoring because we just listen to Artist's top tracks. - Word of mouth. Asking my friends what they listen to. This is a way that people used to discover music and I've found so much good music this way. - Bandcamp. Bandcamp is SUCH a good way to discover new music. You can listen to the music in app, there are great articles and you can actually support the artists!
- pixelatedindex 1mo ago
  Epic bought bandcamp many moons ago. Did they enshittify it or is it still going strong?
  - stijnveken 1mo ago
    Epic actually sold Bandcamp 3 years ago. I only started using it lately so I can't say how it was before, but I think it's still good. https://pitchfork.com/news/epic-games-sells-bandcamp-amid-layoffs/ https://pitchfork.com/news/epic-games-sells-bandcamp-amid-la...
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    - kennywinker 1mo ago
      Unfortunately bandcamp laid off virtually all of their engineers a month or so back: https://www.hypebot.com/new-bandcamp-layoffs-why-artists-are-worried-and-where-to-turn/ https://www.hypebot.com/new-bandcamp-layoffs-why-artists-are... So, not enshittified, but either abandoned or headed for ensloppification.
      - nsteel 1mo ago
msmagh 1mo ago
using nts.live and and fip radio -> https://www.radiofrance.fr/fip https://www.radiofrance.fr/fip at the moment for same purpose. Radio France allows to save liked track names in profile to look up later.
- lolive 1mo ago
  In addition to those two bangers, BBC6 and RNE also have shows to discover new musics. PS: RadioParadise is also a safe place for good music.
hyperadvanced 1mo ago
Call me a boomer but I’ve had a ton of fun with XM radio. I can find new music on Bandcamp but nothing compares to hearing some classic from the 80’s that you would have never thought to put on when you’re driving home after work on a Friday.
hillbillydilly 1mo ago
I don't know about you but spotify discovery feels like the least organic discovery possible. Its so homogeneous and predictable and corporate slop adjacent it makes me cringe just thinking about it.
- refactor_master 1mo ago
  I've discovered so many great artists through Spotify, and been to many of their shows (which Spotify also helps surface with their "Live Events" feature). I regularly get artists with less than 100k listeners in my Discover Weekly, which I then look up, and find that they did a concert on KEXP, and the comments all proclaiming "I knew good music wasn't dead!". So I can say for sure that I don't share the slop sentiment. Sure, there's some generic filler every now and then, but any non-cohesive mix, as opposed to a carefully curated album is going to have songs that naturally become "fillers". Just now, I discovered that Spotify snuck in "The Juan Maclean - Running Back To You (2014)", which is a cover of "Brian Bennet - Solstice (1978)". Neither songs are completely unknown, but they're also not exactly Bruno Mars. I don't know if this is pure luck or algorithmic rhythm analysis, but for me it's working.
cmoski 1mo ago
Hype machine used to be so good for this. I haven't used it for a long time but it looks like it is still going in some fashion.
- gnarlynarwhal42 1mo ago
  I used to use hypem soo much during the music blog days and had a subscription etc but it seemed to stop working or something so after a while I stopped using it. I will have to check it out again
wilted-iris 1mo ago
I listen to Flow State, SomaFM, and aggregate from local shows and a few people I follow on social media among other discovery platforms. (I don’t have a favorite yet.) I found that Spotify was increasingly recommending AI artists and songs I already knew. It surfaced very little outside of my comfort zone and effectively nothing that wasn’t new. There’s a whole world of music out there that Spotify wasn’t showing me.
- bityard 1mo ago
  I stopped listening to Pandora well over a decade ago because its algorithm eventually decided that I only liked 12 songs in the whole world.
kachnuv_ocasek 1mo ago
I just listen to NTS most of the time.
- SSLy 1mo ago
  nts is all fire until a dj plays mp3 bitcrunched track that just hurts your ears
ivh 1mo ago
I use https://radioparadise.com https://radioparadise.com for this, since more than 20 years.
twilo 1mo ago
There is nothing better plexamp but unfortunately after plex raised their prices it might not be worth it for most
thesuitonym 1mo ago
> its almost impossible to find new music otherwise I don't know where this opinion came from (Probably Spotify's PR department) but it's just so weird to me. Do you think people didn't find new music before streaming? It's not impossible, you just have to talk to people.

by nan60 1mo ago

dylan604 1mo ago

> radio for discovery was a big question mark I had as well. The Clear Channel and iHeart stations are not known for discovery. Now if you find a college station or by some miracle an independent station you can get some new stuff. My favorite local college station is also ad free. They also have an app which I lean on as it's not the strongest transmitter so their coverage is spotty. Maybe there's other indy stations with apps as well??

BLKNSLVR 1mo ago
This radio station is local to the city I live in, and they've been great for music discovery for me, although heavy focus on local artists, but they've put me onto a few international artists as well. https://threedradio.com/ https://threedradio.com/ I subscribe to them, have done so for ~10 years I reckon. I don't listen as much as I used to, but I want them to continue existing either way. Be aware, the quality of their playlists is incredibly variable, but that's part of the charm. I guarantee you'll hear something you haven't heard before... for better or worse. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zHR0HMFY60 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zHR0HMFY60 (with 2 minutes of silence at the start to, presumably, avoid auto-copyright claims).
- BLKNSLVR 26d ago
  This may be long dead, but a relatively recent musical discovery I've come across is Nando's. They play some great Southern American music, with real nice vibes and beats. My Shazam usage is about 75% Nando's. And I don't mean Southern United States, I mean real, geographical definition South American. There's even a pretty long playlist someone has curated, specifically called Nando's Music: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0kgcsnicEnZYjaU3zoGbU5?si=Off72d9LQ1qHnSQm--ev-g https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0kgcsnicEnZYjaU3zoGbU5?si=...
mcmcmc 1mo ago
Public radio is great, NPR and the member stations have some great streaming channels. KEXP and KCRW are two favs
wilted-iris 1mo ago
I believe there are! I consistently hear good things about KEXP and FIP but I haven’t listened to either extensively. I listen to a lot of SomaFM (free, https://somafm.com/ https://somafm.com/) and the Flow State radio-podcast (paid, https://www.flowstate.fm/ https://www.flowstate.fm/).
- GaProgMan 1mo ago
  I would always recommend KEXP. They have a really varied set of shows and setlists, don't seem to be swayed by "we must play the top 40", genuinely care about music, and are super nice if you head into the building in Seattle (which has a public access space, coffee shop, bathrooms, and a SubPop store). I've had three tours around the place just by telling the folks there that Im there from out of town. To be fair, I might have gotten the tours because I came all the way over from England the times, but it's my favourite place to hang out when I'm in Seattle. Also Ken is the nicest guy ever, and he introduced me to Larry Mizzel Jr while he was broadcasting live. Get the app, or use the player on their website, and hive then a try for an hour or do. The app has the ability to "heart" a track while it's playing live, which helps with discovery.
keyringlight 1mo ago
Internet radio is still going strong: https://www.radio-browser.info/ https://www.radio-browser.info/
- l72 1mo ago
  Wow this is amazing. I can't believe shoutcast still exists too!! I have fond memories of hosting a shoutcast stream at very low bandwidth over dialup! There seems to be a few decent apps in F-droid and lots of stations with no ads and very specific genres like just depressive black metal!
- mrguyorama 1mo ago
  Technobase.fm was my gateway drug to EDM when all I otherwise had access to was rock and roll and country. There used to be Neradio as well, but they died like a decade ago.
frogulis 1mo ago
RRR and PBS in Melbourne both stream online and are both fantastic for music discovery. Go the former if you lean indie and the latter if you lean international.

bubblemoth 1mo ago

I left spotify around two years ago for a self hosted option (I mostly use navidrome+feishin). Music discovery was a concern for me as well, but then I realized that I didn't like the idea of spotify curating which music I discovered. So far, this is what has worked for me: - Actually listening to the music I have now. I think the art of listening through full albums has slowly died, but there is so much music we're ignoring because we just listen to Artist's top tracks. - Word of mouth. Asking my friends what they listen to. This is a way that people used to discover music and I've found so much good music this way. - Bandcamp. Bandcamp is SUCH a good way to discover new music. You can listen to the music in app, there are great articles and you can actually support the artists!

pixelatedindex 1mo ago
Epic bought bandcamp many moons ago. Did they enshittify it or is it still going strong?
- stijnveken 1mo ago
  Epic actually sold Bandcamp 3 years ago. I only started using it lately so I can't say how it was before, but I think it's still good. https://pitchfork.com/news/epic-games-sells-bandcamp-amid-layoffs/ https://pitchfork.com/news/epic-games-sells-bandcamp-amid-la...
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  - kennywinker 1mo ago
    Unfortunately bandcamp laid off virtually all of their engineers a month or so back: https://www.hypebot.com/new-bandcamp-layoffs-why-artists-are-worried-and-where-to-turn/ https://www.hypebot.com/new-bandcamp-layoffs-why-artists-are... So, not enshittified, but either abandoned or headed for ensloppification.
    - nsteel 1mo ago

msmagh 1mo ago

using nts.live and and fip radio -> https://www.radiofrance.fr/fip https://www.radiofrance.fr/fip at the moment for same purpose. Radio France allows to save liked track names in profile to look up later.

lolive 1mo ago
In addition to those two bangers, BBC6 and RNE also have shows to discover new musics. PS: RadioParadise is also a safe place for good music.

hyperadvanced 1mo ago

Call me a boomer but I’ve had a ton of fun with XM radio. I can find new music on Bandcamp but nothing compares to hearing some classic from the 80’s that you would have never thought to put on when you’re driving home after work on a Friday.

hillbillydilly 1mo ago

I don't know about you but spotify discovery feels like the least organic discovery possible. Its so homogeneous and predictable and corporate slop adjacent it makes me cringe just thinking about it.

refactor_master 1mo ago
I've discovered so many great artists through Spotify, and been to many of their shows (which Spotify also helps surface with their "Live Events" feature). I regularly get artists with less than 100k listeners in my Discover Weekly, which I then look up, and find that they did a concert on KEXP, and the comments all proclaiming "I knew good music wasn't dead!". So I can say for sure that I don't share the slop sentiment. Sure, there's some generic filler every now and then, but any non-cohesive mix, as opposed to a carefully curated album is going to have songs that naturally become "fillers". Just now, I discovered that Spotify snuck in "The Juan Maclean - Running Back To You (2014)", which is a cover of "Brian Bennet - Solstice (1978)". Neither songs are completely unknown, but they're also not exactly Bruno Mars. I don't know if this is pure luck or algorithmic rhythm analysis, but for me it's working.

cmoski 1mo ago

Hype machine used to be so good for this. I haven't used it for a long time but it looks like it is still going in some fashion.

gnarlynarwhal42 1mo ago
I used to use hypem soo much during the music blog days and had a subscription etc but it seemed to stop working or something so after a while I stopped using it. I will have to check it out again

wilted-iris 1mo ago

I listen to Flow State, SomaFM, and aggregate from local shows and a few people I follow on social media among other discovery platforms. (I don’t have a favorite yet.) I found that Spotify was increasingly recommending AI artists and songs I already knew. It surfaced very little outside of my comfort zone and effectively nothing that wasn’t new. There’s a whole world of music out there that Spotify wasn’t showing me.

bityard 1mo ago
I stopped listening to Pandora well over a decade ago because its algorithm eventually decided that I only liked 12 songs in the whole world.

kachnuv_ocasek 1mo ago

I just listen to NTS most of the time.

SSLy 1mo ago
nts is all fire until a dj plays mp3 bitcrunched track that just hurts your ears

ivh 1mo ago

I use https://radioparadise.com https://radioparadise.com for this, since more than 20 years.

twilo 1mo ago

There is nothing better plexamp but unfortunately after plex raised their prices it might not be worth it for most

thesuitonym 1mo ago

> its almost impossible to find new music otherwise I don't know where this opinion came from (Probably Spotify's PR department) but it's just so weird to me. Do you think people didn't find new music before streaming? It's not impossible, you just have to talk to people.