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> They dont have the advantage of owning the OS (android/chrome and iOS / Safari) They don't need to. Chrome does extremely well on Windows without "owning the

> They dont have the advantage of owning the OS (android/chrome and iOS / Safari) They don't need to. Chrome does extremely well on Windows without "owning the OS". > nor the advantage of advertising on the google home page like chrome Very few people go to that page anyway. > The "customers" they are courting are security/privacy zealots who constantly want them "just work on the browser" but never seem to have an answer on how to pay for that. They already get half a billion dollars a year from Google for very little in exchange. They just need to spend that money on the website browser and not nonsense.

hungryhobbit 2mo ago
> They already get half a billion dollars a year from Google for very little in exchange. They just need to spend that money on the website browser and not nonsense. QFT. The biggest impediment to Firefox's success is the Mozilla Org, which sees it as a cash cow to fund a zillion projects no one wants (sacrificing the future of the browser everyone wants).
- brigandish 2mo ago
  Quantum field theory? Quiet Firefox tremors? What is this QFT you speak of?
  - badprose 2mo ago
    Quarterly Financial Targets? Questionable Functionality and Technology?
  - hed 2mo ago
    Quoted for truth
  - NL807 2mo ago
    Quoted for the truth.
tempest_ 2mo ago
Windows is not really a growing user base in a lot of places it is in decline. Most "internet users" are mobile. The ones using windows are doing it from work laptops that are locked down and use edge (chrome). If windows was a growing market MS would not be so far down the extraction path they have gone with the OS.
- OkayPhysicist 2mo ago
  Edge still doesn't have a market share as big as Chrome, even among desktop browsers. Chrome is still a behemoth at 70% of all desktop browser usage.
DangerousPie 2mo ago
Silly take. Chrome does extremely well on Windows because every Google site, from search to Youtube to Gmail to Docs nudges people to install it. Without that 99% of people would just stay on Edge. Firefox as "just a browser" that is entirely dependent on funding from its main competitor just isn't a future-proof solution. That's why they keep on trying to come up with new revenue streams.
- philipallstar 1mo ago
  > Silly take. Chrome does extremely well on Windows because every Google site, from search to Youtube to Gmail to Docs nudges people to install it. Without that 99% of people would just stay on Edge. No they wouldn't. Everyone recommended Chrome, and it came long before Edge (given Edge is based on Chromium). People have got used to Chrome. That's why it does well. People don't even interact with those sites so much any more, as they've all moved to phone apps, but they all still use Chrome. > Firefox as "just a browser" that is entirely dependent on funding from its main competitor just isn't a future-proof solution. That's why they keep on trying to come up with new revenue streams. Just paying far fewer executives and putting money aside for lean years is a good start. Put aside $150m/year and spend $100m on servers and engineers and that'll get you a long way. But because it's free money it gets spent on nonsense.

hungryhobbit 2mo ago

> They already get half a billion dollars a year from Google for very little in exchange. They just need to spend that money on the website browser and not nonsense. QFT. The biggest impediment to Firefox's success is the Mozilla Org, which sees it as a cash cow to fund a zillion projects no one wants (sacrificing the future of the browser everyone wants).

brigandish 2mo ago
Quantum field theory? Quiet Firefox tremors? What is this QFT you speak of?
- badprose 2mo ago
  Quarterly Financial Targets? Questionable Functionality and Technology?
- hed 2mo ago
  Quoted for truth
- NL807 2mo ago
  Quoted for the truth.

tempest_ 2mo ago

Windows is not really a growing user base in a lot of places it is in decline. Most "internet users" are mobile. The ones using windows are doing it from work laptops that are locked down and use edge (chrome). If windows was a growing market MS would not be so far down the extraction path they have gone with the OS.

OkayPhysicist 2mo ago
Edge still doesn't have a market share as big as Chrome, even among desktop browsers. Chrome is still a behemoth at 70% of all desktop browser usage.

DangerousPie 2mo ago

Silly take. Chrome does extremely well on Windows because every Google site, from search to Youtube to Gmail to Docs nudges people to install it. Without that 99% of people would just stay on Edge. Firefox as "just a browser" that is entirely dependent on funding from its main competitor just isn't a future-proof solution. That's why they keep on trying to come up with new revenue streams.

philipallstar 1mo ago
> Silly take. Chrome does extremely well on Windows because every Google site, from search to Youtube to Gmail to Docs nudges people to install it. Without that 99% of people would just stay on Edge. No they wouldn't. Everyone recommended Chrome, and it came long before Edge (given Edge is based on Chromium). People have got used to Chrome. That's why it does well. People don't even interact with those sites so much any more, as they've all moved to phone apps, but they all still use Chrome. > Firefox as "just a browser" that is entirely dependent on funding from its main competitor just isn't a future-proof solution. That's why they keep on trying to come up with new revenue streams. Just paying far fewer executives and putting money aside for lean years is a good start. Put aside $150m/year and spend $100m on servers and engineers and that'll get you a long way. But because it's free money it gets spent on nonsense.