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I think one aspect that wasn’t discussed in this article sufficiently is: > given that all of their peers have adopted it, there is a serious social cost to op

I think one aspect that wasn’t discussed in this article sufficiently is: > given that all of their peers have adopted it, there is a serious social cost to opting out. Unlike reading a book, or fishing, or whatever, there’s no peer pressure to pick a specific hobby. There is significant pressure to use social media. I’m usually on the authors side, the view that the youth is rotten is literally as old as time (go check out Aristotle), but unlike a claimed moral decay, we are actively forcing kids to partake. In Germany kids are drinking less than ever before. The education ministry went out and surveyed the kids: they don’t want to drink or party because they might embarrass themselves and it’ll be recorded and on social media and as such it might haunt them for the rest of their teen years. Albeit the outcome is good the enforcement mechanism is straight out of a 1984 horror novel kind of shit. As a teen you need to be able to experiment in a safe space somewhere somehow.

testing22321 2mo ago
There are a few towns around the world that ban phones and social media for kids. I really like this approach because it means nobody feels left out, and the parents are not the bad guys. Fingers crossed it comes to my mountain hippie town before my 2 year old wants it.
ip26 2mo ago
you need to be able to experiment With what? It’s not prima facie bad to have limits or bounds. I’d agree it’s good to be able to be goofy, but there’s plenty of actually-illegal activities teenagers used to “experiment” with (and skate by under the radar) that doesn't feel like a loss if it’s gone.
- usernametaken29 2mo ago
  Absolute case in point, in Germany drinking age is 16, but if you’re drunk and goofy and on social media rest assured you’ll be an outcast for a long while
- ytoawwhra92 2mo ago
  > With what? With stuff that you're be free to do as an adult with minimal to no restrictions. Teens should have opportunities to experiment with these activities in safe spaces so that they have direct life experience to reflect on when they're in a less safe or unsafe environment.

testing22321 2mo ago

There are a few towns around the world that ban phones and social media for kids. I really like this approach because it means nobody feels left out, and the parents are not the bad guys. Fingers crossed it comes to my mountain hippie town before my 2 year old wants it.

ip26 2mo ago

you need to be able to experiment With what? It’s not prima facie bad to have limits or bounds. I’d agree it’s good to be able to be goofy, but there’s plenty of actually-illegal activities teenagers used to “experiment” with (and skate by under the radar) that doesn't feel like a loss if it’s gone.

usernametaken29 2mo ago
Absolute case in point, in Germany drinking age is 16, but if you’re drunk and goofy and on social media rest assured you’ll be an outcast for a long while
ytoawwhra92 2mo ago
> With what? With stuff that you're be free to do as an adult with minimal to no restrictions. Teens should have opportunities to experiment with these activities in safe spaces so that they have direct life experience to reflect on when they're in a less safe or unsafe environment.