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While this is interesting, what I really wanted to see was more 'graffiti' and less 'laser'. Graffiti, fundamentally, is a defacement of public property as a f

While this is interesting, what I really wanted to see was more 'graffiti' and less 'laser'. Graffiti, fundamentally, is a defacement of public property as a form of artistic self expression. To that end, why not combine this with a laser engraver instead of a laser pointer? Imagine hooking this up and then literally carving your graffiti into the side of a brick building. Or burning it into the paint on a metal container car. Obviously such a thing has the potential for serious bodily harm and could start building or wild fires inadvertently, to say nothing of the energy consumption requirements such a laser engraver would necessitate. Counterpoint: rule of cool.

grufkork 2mo ago
You’ll probably burn your retinas with the backscatter
brianpan 2mo ago
Defacement is not the point of graffiti. It's fundamentally visual, not fundamentally destructive.
- clickety_clack 2mo ago
  Ask the people who have to clean it off.
  - sleepybrett 2mo ago
    they have no choice, and i don't care what their bosses think.
    - clickety_clack 2mo ago
      That is a really edgy and cool opinion.
- 21asdffdsa12 2mo ago
  Seriously? 99% is some stupid tag.. no art at all.. just the equivalent of a dog lifting his leg in paint..
trashcan_man 2mo ago
"Can you tell the jury what you told investigators when you decided to use computerized directed energy weapons to target civllian infrastructure?" "...rule of cool?"
teiferer 2mo ago
> Graffiti, fundamentally, is a defacement of public property Both wrong. Neither is defacement the point nor doing it to public property. Fundamentally it's a visual art form and whether that's on private or public property is insubstantial. It's surely intervoven with anarchic protest and that's where the defacement angle comes in. Similarly, public property as a symbol of the state that is rejected plays often a role. Though that's ironic too since if the "artist" comes from a left-leaning anarchic background then damaging public goods is kinda counterproductive, as opposed to private property of the rich who are the more usual target for symbolizing oppression of the poor.
- vortegne 2mo ago
  Both statements are wrong. But yours is wrong-er. You are thinking of street art. Or just spray paint art. The whole point of graffiti is to "get up". If you don't know what getting up is, you should not be espousing any opinions on what graffiti is and isn't.
  - teiferer 2mo ago
    In fact, I'm aware what it means and don't see how that and what I wrote are contradictory. Though not everybody around here may know, so how about you educate folks instead of being condescending? Getting your tag up somewhere can surely be considered art. It's fine if you personally don't, but you are not speaking for others. Nor is it clear why you feel entitled to explain to me what I am supposedly thinking.
- andai 2mo ago
  Reciting ancient Roman graffiti https://youtu.be/-qSETCKlzQQ https://youtu.be/-qSETCKlzQQ
- socalgal2 2mo ago
  I will be happy to come over your place and destroy your stuff by adding my graffiti "art" to it
  - 2mo ago
RobotToaster 2mo ago
I was hoping for the same. If we're going to live in a cyberpunk dystopia we could at least have some cool anarchist tools to go with it.
DonHopkins 2mo ago
WARNING: DO NOT LOOK INTO LASER WITH REMAINING EYE
- 21asdffdsa12 2mo ago
  Arr: You are not the pi-rated captain of me..
andai 2mo ago
>coolness as a function of danger Well now you got me started. Why not engrave your message into the surface of a celestial body via a carefully aimed series of orbital bombardments?
socalgal2 2mo ago
Please tell me where you live. I'd like to come over and ruin your property with graffiti and see how you like it. > defacement of public property Plenty of graffiti is on private property. About $15 billion is spent dealing with property destruction by graffiti. All of which is passed on to tax payers and consumers.
dolmen 2mo ago
> Graffiti, fundamentally, is a defacement of public property as a form of artistic self expression. The "Musée de la mémoire des murs" (museum of walls' memories), previously named "Musée des Grafittis historiques" sees grafittis much beyond your strict definition. https://www.verneuil-en-halatte.fr/musee-de-la-memoire-des-murs/ https://www.verneuil-en-halatte.fr/musee-de-la-memoire-des-m... I visited it long ago, but I remember drawings by prisoners on cells walls. Definitely not public property (or not visible by a wide public from public places).

grufkork 2mo ago

You’ll probably burn your retinas with the backscatter

brianpan 2mo ago

Defacement is not the point of graffiti. It's fundamentally visual, not fundamentally destructive.

clickety_clack 2mo ago
Ask the people who have to clean it off.
- sleepybrett 2mo ago
  they have no choice, and i don't care what their bosses think.
  - clickety_clack 2mo ago
    That is a really edgy and cool opinion.
21asdffdsa12 2mo ago
Seriously? 99% is some stupid tag.. no art at all.. just the equivalent of a dog lifting his leg in paint..

trashcan_man 2mo ago

"Can you tell the jury what you told investigators when you decided to use computerized directed energy weapons to target civllian infrastructure?" "...rule of cool?"

teiferer 2mo ago

> Graffiti, fundamentally, is a defacement of public property Both wrong. Neither is defacement the point nor doing it to public property. Fundamentally it's a visual art form and whether that's on private or public property is insubstantial. It's surely intervoven with anarchic protest and that's where the defacement angle comes in. Similarly, public property as a symbol of the state that is rejected plays often a role. Though that's ironic too since if the "artist" comes from a left-leaning anarchic background then damaging public goods is kinda counterproductive, as opposed to private property of the rich who are the more usual target for symbolizing oppression of the poor.

vortegne 2mo ago
Both statements are wrong. But yours is wrong-er. You are thinking of street art. Or just spray paint art. The whole point of graffiti is to "get up". If you don't know what getting up is, you should not be espousing any opinions on what graffiti is and isn't.
- teiferer 2mo ago
  In fact, I'm aware what it means and don't see how that and what I wrote are contradictory. Though not everybody around here may know, so how about you educate folks instead of being condescending? Getting your tag up somewhere can surely be considered art. It's fine if you personally don't, but you are not speaking for others. Nor is it clear why you feel entitled to explain to me what I am supposedly thinking.
andai 2mo ago
Reciting ancient Roman graffiti https://youtu.be/-qSETCKlzQQ https://youtu.be/-qSETCKlzQQ
socalgal2 2mo ago
I will be happy to come over your place and destroy your stuff by adding my graffiti "art" to it
- 2mo ago

RobotToaster 2mo ago

I was hoping for the same. If we're going to live in a cyberpunk dystopia we could at least have some cool anarchist tools to go with it.

DonHopkins 2mo ago

WARNING: DO NOT LOOK INTO LASER WITH REMAINING EYE

21asdffdsa12 2mo ago
Arr: You are not the pi-rated captain of me..

andai 2mo ago

>coolness as a function of danger Well now you got me started. Why not engrave your message into the surface of a celestial body via a carefully aimed series of orbital bombardments?

socalgal2 2mo ago

Please tell me where you live. I'd like to come over and ruin your property with graffiti and see how you like it. > defacement of public property Plenty of graffiti is on private property. About $15 billion is spent dealing with property destruction by graffiti. All of which is passed on to tax payers and consumers.

dolmen 2mo ago

> Graffiti, fundamentally, is a defacement of public property as a form of artistic self expression. The "Musée de la mémoire des murs" (museum of walls' memories), previously named "Musée des Grafittis historiques" sees grafittis much beyond your strict definition. https://www.verneuil-en-halatte.fr/musee-de-la-memoire-des-murs/ https://www.verneuil-en-halatte.fr/musee-de-la-memoire-des-m... I visited it long ago, but I remember drawings by prisoners on cells walls. Definitely not public property (or not visible by a wide public from public places).