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I came this || close to buying Expression Studio for a team member last week. :/ The problem is that Microsoft still doesn't communicate it's big vision to dev

I came this || close to buying Expression Studio for a team member last week. :/ The problem is that Microsoft still doesn't communicate it's big vision to developers at large. There's a lot of dead ends and blind alleys that people get led into... I'm currently commited 80% timewise to the MS stack, but over the last decade alternatives have matured, and attitudes among the folks with the purse strings have changed towards other tech options in the marketplace. It was another weird quirk of timing that I read this news about Expression while installing various Python packages on a Linux box...

fletchowns 14y ago
They do communicate their vision to developers. Remember how they were super committed to Silverlight?
ct 14y ago
Totally concur about lack of communication to devs which is why despite being primarily a MS dev I haven't bothered to jump on the WinRT/Win8 app store empty bandwagon, and have instead been playing with Objective C recently. For MS to regain status: 1) Fire Ballmer and get someone that understands technology/design to lead a tech company 2) Be more transparent to devs 3) Put more resources to the core tech that differentiates their OS like Apple does with Objective C API, MS should be doing with WPF (not Silverlight or WinRT or another tech - their thought process of supporting JS didn't really gain much JS devs for Win8/WinRT apps, and just ended up burning bridges with long time MS enterprise devs) Failing the above I see MS losing more devs and as a result less apps supporting the OS and finally less market share.
- colin_jack 14y ago
  I don't agree TBH, they are pretty transparent its just a lot of what things don't get beyond hype (Oslo), some never even get close to being generally useful (WF, WCF) and others get massively over hyped and then crash and burn (Silverlight). To me its not the transparency that's the issue, its the fact that they so many of their ideas are duds.

fletchowns 14y ago

They do communicate their vision to developers. Remember how they were super committed to Silverlight?

ct 14y ago

Totally concur about lack of communication to devs which is why despite being primarily a MS dev I haven't bothered to jump on the WinRT/Win8 app store empty bandwagon, and have instead been playing with Objective C recently. For MS to regain status: 1) Fire Ballmer and get someone that understands technology/design to lead a tech company 2) Be more transparent to devs 3) Put more resources to the core tech that differentiates their OS like Apple does with Objective C API, MS should be doing with WPF (not Silverlight or WinRT or another tech - their thought process of supporting JS didn't really gain much JS devs for Win8/WinRT apps, and just ended up burning bridges with long time MS enterprise devs) Failing the above I see MS losing more devs and as a result less apps supporting the OS and finally less market share.

colin_jack 14y ago
I don't agree TBH, they are pretty transparent its just a lot of what things don't get beyond hype (Oslo), some never even get close to being generally useful (WF, WCF) and others get massively over hyped and then crash and burn (Silverlight). To me its not the transparency that's the issue, its the fact that they so many of their ideas are duds.