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> One of the somewhat frustrating assumptions running through your posts is that everyone materially gives a damn about the "control" of your window managers--a
by w1ntermute 14y ago
> One of the somewhat frustrating assumptions running through your posts is that everyone materially gives a damn about the "control" of your window managers--as if the window manager is of more bracing importance than the applications running within. For you it may be, but to post as if this is a universal case is a little much.
Well, we're specifically discussing window management, not the software running within. A comparison of Linux and OS X software is a completely different conversation.
> I found it actively tiring and demanding of micromanagement to work with it.
This is a common complaint, and all I can say to you, in the spirit of Steve Jobs, is that you're "doing it wrong". If you're actively managing windows with a tiling window manager, then that defeats the whole point of using the software. The idea is to have predetermined rules for how your windows will be arranged, and then not rearrange them at all (or rarely).
The whole reason for Xmonad having its config file in Haskell, an actual programming language, and not just a flat file with some settings, is so that you are not limited in the logic by which your windows are managed. Granted, this does require you to learn Haskell, which is probably Xmonad's biggest practical weakness. A similar window manager written in a more popular and approachable language, such as Python, would probably have a lot more users while only sacrificing a few things.
> the general lack of user focus
That's quite ironic, given that this entire thread is the result of Apple ignoring user interests.
- eropple 14y ago> Well, we're specifically discussing window management, not the software running within. We are? I wasn't intending to. Throughout this thread I've attempted to be clear that I was talking about the desktop environment, rather than the window manager; I apologize if I slipped somewhere. Window managers aren't even really on my radar unless it sucks. Like, GNOME's WM--sure, whatever, it's there. I don't even really think about it. It's what I'm trying to do with it that drives me batshit. I don't even think about OS X's window manager except on the (fairly rare) occasion that I swipe up for Mission Control and throw a couple windows into another desktop. It's just not a thing to me. The applications inside, on the other hand...welp. > The idea is to have predetermined rules for how your windows will be arranged, and then not rearrange them at all (or rarely). That's not how my brain works. I didn't say Xmonad was wrong, I said it doesn't map to how I think and work. > That's quite ironic, given that this entire thread is the result of Apple ignoring user interests. I did say I don't use iDevices anymore. =)