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Have any of these reports ever said how much the cost would’ve been for the hack itself? It seems like “for twelve million dollars (or whatever) worth of tokens
by jrflowers 27d ago
Have any of these reports ever said how much the cost would’ve been for the hack itself? It seems like “for twelve million dollars (or whatever) worth of tokens our bots made a bulletin board and found an exploit in our buggy grader” would be much less of a hype generator
- dgellow 27d agoI haven’t seen a number yet unfortunately
- estearum 27d ago[flagged]
- jrflowers 27d agoWhat?
- estearum 27d agoYou are downplaying the severity of the attack Everyone I've ever seen trying to downplay the severity of the attack is extremely bullish on AI (so their downplaying is presumably motivated reasoning driven by fear of regulation/deceleration) It is completely incoherent to be extremely bullish on AI and somehow automatically skeptical of severe negative events like these
- jrflowers 26d agoI am trying to figure out how a stranger calling need an “anti-hype hypeboy” online is supposed to make me less curious about how much this thing cost. Can you elaborate on how avoiding being called this is preferable to knowing things? What other stuff should people not know about?
- estearum 26d agoI think it's a super good question! I don't think the following description of the whole event as "a hype generator" is correct or, as described above, resulting from a coherent worldview.
- jrflowers 26d agoI’m not sure that you’re using “hype” or “coherent” correctly here but what other observations might a person make that sharing them gives you concern about their “worldview”?
- DarmokTanagra 27d agoThe people concerned about this aren't worried about monetary costs or its impact on share holder value. This occurred spontaneously within a group of benign models give a harmless task. What happens when it occurs intentionally with malicious models given a harmful task?
- deepwoods 26d agoThe trouble is that if it cost $12 million today, somebody will have a model that can do it for $12,000 in a few months.