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You know, I have all the sympathy in the world to up_and_up, and I wish him luck. If I would know about a remote position I might even had done something about

by mikle 14y ago

You know, I have all the sympathy in the world to up_and_up, and I wish him luck. If I would know about a remote position I might even had done something about it. But this seems fishy to me for a few reasons, and out of place. HN has a job board up there, job posts every month and there are more than enough places for someone to find a few leads. I would be less suspicious if there was a location mentioned and not just a cryptic "remote" or a link to a site, github or something that makes this a real person. Maybe I'm just a cynic, but it's hard for me not to feel skeptical.

potatolicious 14y ago
Skeptical of what, that OP isn't actually unemployed and looking for work? What, exactly, would the angle be besides a person who is looking for job leads?
- cedrichurst 14y ago
  A recruiter phishing for hiring managers maybe? But I would suspect this is legit and totally above-board. This is part of what online communities are all about.
- mikle 14y ago
  Maybe skeptical is not exactly the right word, but I feel like having a post like that should not be part of HN.
peteretep 14y ago
Yes, I'm sure it's a massive conspiracy to defraud us all of our hard-earned ...???
- ruswick 14y ago
  ...leads. Admittedly, it's incredibly unlikely that this is some sort of recruiter scam, but it's not as if what he said was incoherent.
  - perfunctory 14y ago
    > it's incredibly unlikely why?
    - peteretep 14y ago
      Because the difficult problem in software developer recruitment is finding candidates, not finding jobs.
      - perfunctory 14y ago
        " it's incredibly unlikely that this is some sort of recruiter scam" "Because the difficult problem in software developer recruitment is finding candidates" ? Am I reading this right?
up_and_up 14y ago
"Maybe I'm just a cynic, but it's hard for me not to feel skeptical." Sorry to disappoint, but nobody is being trolled here.
- niggler 14y ago
  You are trolling, and here's why: 1) Your writing style is eerily similar to that of a person based in India (and yes, I've seen enough people claiming to be americans but actually from India to know the difference) For example "helping to define product and rapidly build it" is not a natural phrase to use. 2) I highly doubt anyone here needs to see something like "API's" under skills. It's not like people here aren't aware of many of the APIs that you know. 3) If you really spent 7 years working and have experience in "Ecommerce, Saas, Social API's, Analytics, Finance, Health IT" you either jumped many times between jobs or you worked for a contracting company 4) A person with your level of experience, especially in areas like javascript and HTML5, should be able to throw together a sample or a portfolio. Do you have such a sample?
  - saryant 14y ago
    Other than the single phrase you pointed out, nothing else in his post jumps out to me as being similar to the typical Indian style of English writing. Until very recently I used to work for one of the big outsourcing firms so I've exchanged more than my share of emails with offshore devs. This one just doesn't strike me the same as those emails. I'll give you (2) and (3) but he may also just be overreaching. Analytics could equal throwing Google Analytics on a page. Ecommerce, a PayPal integration. And who hasn't grabbed some data from the Twitter API when testing out a new framework or library? I'll agree that that's a very broad range, maybe. Overall, however, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's not an overseas dev trolling for leads.
    - niggler 14y ago
      on point 1: "API's" <-- this could be sampling bias, but I've never seen an american write it like this (though, to be honest, I've never seen a resume include the abstract assertion that the person is familiar with APIs) "Social API's" <-- If this person used the Twitter API then he or she would say it. "Experienced in domains" <-- This phrase didn't strike you as odd? "I am on the hunt for Developer-related position." <-- That could be eastern european, but struck me as Indian. on overreaching: ostensibly this person realized that the community has many technically competent people. Overreaching makes sense when talking to a recruiter. When you are talking with other technical people, just get to the point! No need to say "Health IT" or "Finance" without going into what exactly you did. Finance is particularly bad, because there are many ... for lack of a better term, mindless roles in the major investment banks. But the fourth point really bothers me. If I wanted to be hired as a web dev, I would have a sample up. Something that would show I know what I'm doing. It's not that hard, and the prevalence of free micro hosting like AWS or github pages or nodejitsu renders the economic argument moot. Hell, even a simple twitter bootstrap site would say that he or she knows that it exists.

by mikle 14y ago

potatolicious 14y ago

Skeptical of what, that OP isn't actually unemployed and looking for work? What, exactly, would the angle be besides a person who is looking for job leads?

cedrichurst 14y ago
A recruiter phishing for hiring managers maybe? But I would suspect this is legit and totally above-board. This is part of what online communities are all about.
mikle 14y ago
Maybe skeptical is not exactly the right word, but I feel like having a post like that should not be part of HN.

peteretep 14y ago

Yes, I'm sure it's a massive conspiracy to defraud us all of our hard-earned ...???

ruswick 14y ago
...leads. Admittedly, it's incredibly unlikely that this is some sort of recruiter scam, but it's not as if what he said was incoherent.
- perfunctory 14y ago
  > it's incredibly unlikely why?
  - peteretep 14y ago
    Because the difficult problem in software developer recruitment is finding candidates, not finding jobs.
    - perfunctory 14y ago
      " it's incredibly unlikely that this is some sort of recruiter scam" "Because the difficult problem in software developer recruitment is finding candidates" ? Am I reading this right?

up_and_up 14y ago

"Maybe I'm just a cynic, but it's hard for me not to feel skeptical." Sorry to disappoint, but nobody is being trolled here.

niggler 14y ago
You are trolling, and here's why: 1) Your writing style is eerily similar to that of a person based in India (and yes, I've seen enough people claiming to be americans but actually from India to know the difference) For example "helping to define product and rapidly build it" is not a natural phrase to use. 2) I highly doubt anyone here needs to see something like "API's" under skills. It's not like people here aren't aware of many of the APIs that you know. 3) If you really spent 7 years working and have experience in "Ecommerce, Saas, Social API's, Analytics, Finance, Health IT" you either jumped many times between jobs or you worked for a contracting company 4) A person with your level of experience, especially in areas like javascript and HTML5, should be able to throw together a sample or a portfolio. Do you have such a sample?
- saryant 14y ago
  Other than the single phrase you pointed out, nothing else in his post jumps out to me as being similar to the typical Indian style of English writing. Until very recently I used to work for one of the big outsourcing firms so I've exchanged more than my share of emails with offshore devs. This one just doesn't strike me the same as those emails. I'll give you (2) and (3) but he may also just be overreaching. Analytics could equal throwing Google Analytics on a page. Ecommerce, a PayPal integration. And who hasn't grabbed some data from the Twitter API when testing out a new framework or library? I'll agree that that's a very broad range, maybe. Overall, however, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's not an overseas dev trolling for leads.
  - niggler 14y ago
    on point 1: "API's" <-- this could be sampling bias, but I've never seen an american write it like this (though, to be honest, I've never seen a resume include the abstract assertion that the person is familiar with APIs) "Social API's" <-- If this person used the Twitter API then he or she would say it. "Experienced in domains" <-- This phrase didn't strike you as odd? "I am on the hunt for Developer-related position." <-- That could be eastern european, but struck me as Indian. on overreaching: ostensibly this person realized that the community has many technically competent people. Overreaching makes sense when talking to a recruiter. When you are talking with other technical people, just get to the point! No need to say "Health IT" or "Finance" without going into what exactly you did. Finance is particularly bad, because there are many ... for lack of a better term, mindless roles in the major investment banks. But the fourth point really bothers me. If I wanted to be hired as a web dev, I would have a sample up. Something that would show I know what I'm doing. It's not that hard, and the prevalence of free micro hosting like AWS or github pages or nodejitsu renders the economic argument moot. Hell, even a simple twitter bootstrap site would say that he or she knows that it exists.