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> because .. inevitably .. this super dry summer means there will be heavier rains in October What's the process here for that region? I don't think the moistu

> because .. inevitably .. this super dry summer means there will be heavier rains in October What's the process here for that region? I don't think the moisture is waiting anywhere.

Ekaros 27d ago
Finland has escaped most of the heat of Central Europe. We have had hard rains occasionally, but overall not that much more rain. From stats look like 100-150% of historic numbers. So it has really not rained outside the high pressure zone. So I am not really sure where it all would be.
- Thlom 27d ago
  West coast of Norway. 12-15 degrees and rain most of the summer.
  - jjtheblunt 27d ago
    that sounds wonderful from the ~1000 square miles of Phoenix, Arizona, where a century of concrete and asphalt retain so much heat that the clouds bounce around the borders of the heat bubble overhead, unable to dump rain regularly enough to evaporate away the stored heat, but with rainfall regularly visible outside the edges of the metropolitan area, in the wide open skies.
    - downut 27d ago
      My wife and I retired to Tucson last year, and intentionally went through this first summer just to get the full experience. Never again! We've been under flash flood warnings the last several days and have only had a few sprinkles to go with the 108F days. So... I had a look at Eureka CA weather this morning. Looks like Western Norway. Nice. Spending July and August up there might be mandatory for our mental health. We spent 3 years in Tempe back in the '80s. It sucked then too.
      - jjtheblunt 26d ago
        that's good info : i'll take a look at Eureka, but think further north would be even better, like Oregon coast. I'm from Chicago outer suburbia originally so miss actual greenery and rain without the mega-dramatic desert windstorm bullshit...and at altitude at the foothills north of the phoenix metro area it's been way over 100 for a very long time, though less insane than som eof the 8 years we've been here (for work and outdoorsiness).
      - noduerme 26d ago
        Eureka is a weird place. It's got a foggy microclimate that you can actually see as you drive into it. Even for the Northern California / Oregon coast it's especially cool and rainy. As a Portlander I treasure our 3-4 months of sunny weather. I wouldn't be able to handle the year-round gloom.
        jjtheblunt 26d ago
        good info...dad lived in hillsboro so i understand the monotony boredom of overcast skies. interestingly, i personally find phoenix area worse since rain is way more rare than sun up there, and it's mega dramatic insane when it happens, from winds.
MomsAVoxell 27d ago
I’ve had it explained to me that it evaporates in the heat and gets deposited in the mountains and the atmosphere above the more northern states, where .. once things cool down, it condenses and moves through tributaries in a big rush or two during the massive temperature changes of October/November. The thunder storms we’ve had in Vienna in the last few years have produced amazing floods - reminiscent of the desert storms of Australias north-west, where I am from - and a couple years back, the engineering of Viennas water ways was put to the test, with the floods overflowing railway lines and traffic arteries of the city in ways not seen much before this decade...
- bestouff 27d ago
  I dunno about that. I'm living in the mountains (French Alps) and it's unusually dry here. Trees are dying.
  - herbst 27d ago
    Same here in the Swiss Alps. Doesn't look so bad, but rain is WAY below what it should be. Still is
    - fakedang 27d ago
      Not in the Alps, but mid summer looked like the start of autumn. At this rate, it won't be long until we don't even have an autumn like the tropics. Swiss Tourism Agency will have to work overtime now promoting Tiktok clips and Insta reels, because of Rösti's stupid policy. And the country is going to pay for it over the next few decades.

> because .. inevitably .. this super dry summer means there will be heavier rains in October What's the process here for that region? I don't think the moisture is waiting anywhere.

Ekaros 27d ago

Finland has escaped most of the heat of Central Europe. We have had hard rains occasionally, but overall not that much more rain. From stats look like 100-150% of historic numbers. So it has really not rained outside the high pressure zone. So I am not really sure where it all would be.

Thlom 27d ago
West coast of Norway. 12-15 degrees and rain most of the summer.
- jjtheblunt 27d ago
  that sounds wonderful from the ~1000 square miles of Phoenix, Arizona, where a century of concrete and asphalt retain so much heat that the clouds bounce around the borders of the heat bubble overhead, unable to dump rain regularly enough to evaporate away the stored heat, but with rainfall regularly visible outside the edges of the metropolitan area, in the wide open skies.
  - downut 27d ago
    My wife and I retired to Tucson last year, and intentionally went through this first summer just to get the full experience. Never again! We've been under flash flood warnings the last several days and have only had a few sprinkles to go with the 108F days. So... I had a look at Eureka CA weather this morning. Looks like Western Norway. Nice. Spending July and August up there might be mandatory for our mental health. We spent 3 years in Tempe back in the '80s. It sucked then too.
    - jjtheblunt 26d ago
      that's good info : i'll take a look at Eureka, but think further north would be even better, like Oregon coast. I'm from Chicago outer suburbia originally so miss actual greenery and rain without the mega-dramatic desert windstorm bullshit...and at altitude at the foothills north of the phoenix metro area it's been way over 100 for a very long time, though less insane than som eof the 8 years we've been here (for work and outdoorsiness).
    - noduerme 26d ago
      Eureka is a weird place. It's got a foggy microclimate that you can actually see as you drive into it. Even for the Northern California / Oregon coast it's especially cool and rainy. As a Portlander I treasure our 3-4 months of sunny weather. I wouldn't be able to handle the year-round gloom.
      - jjtheblunt 26d ago
        good info...dad lived in hillsboro so i understand the monotony boredom of overcast skies. interestingly, i personally find phoenix area worse since rain is way more rare than sun up there, and it's mega dramatic insane when it happens, from winds.

MomsAVoxell 27d ago

I’ve had it explained to me that it evaporates in the heat and gets deposited in the mountains and the atmosphere above the more northern states, where .. once things cool down, it condenses and moves through tributaries in a big rush or two during the massive temperature changes of October/November. The thunder storms we’ve had in Vienna in the last few years have produced amazing floods - reminiscent of the desert storms of Australias north-west, where I am from - and a couple years back, the engineering of Viennas water ways was put to the test, with the floods overflowing railway lines and traffic arteries of the city in ways not seen much before this decade...

bestouff 27d ago
I dunno about that. I'm living in the mountains (French Alps) and it's unusually dry here. Trees are dying.
- herbst 27d ago
  Same here in the Swiss Alps. Doesn't look so bad, but rain is WAY below what it should be. Still is
  - fakedang 27d ago
    Not in the Alps, but mid summer looked like the start of autumn. At this rate, it won't be long until we don't even have an autumn like the tropics. Swiss Tourism Agency will have to work overtime now promoting Tiktok clips and Insta reels, because of Rösti's stupid policy. And the country is going to pay for it over the next few decades.