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In the US we also have tech companies going out of their way to make their devices have strong encryption and be unbreakable.
by trollbridge 3mo ago
In the US we also have tech companies going out of their way to make their devices have strong encryption and be unbreakable.
- lazide 3mo agoSometimes, with likely exceptions.
- softwaredoug 3mo agoYes hashtag “Not all tech companies”
- lioeters 3mo agoAnd the marketing to make people believe it!
- derwiki 3mo agoMaybe I’m naive: I can believe the e2e encryption happens, but it takes a lot of faith to believe there’s no front-end telemetry that would render that ineffective.
- throw0101a 3mo agoDefine "ineffective". Traffic analysis is a thing: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_analysis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_analysis but message E2EE is generally not designed to solve that. Other layers of the stack would probably have to get involved.
- inigyou 2mo agoFor instance WhatsApp uploads your unencrypted message history to Google Cloud once a week.
- fsflover 2mo agoOr iPhone storing all previous unencrypted notifications including Signal messages, if you didn't switch it off: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47716490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47716490
- ethagnawl 3mo agoOne. Most of the time. Supposedly.
- enoint 3mo agoWired has reported that ongoing DHS surveillance tracks “anti-tech” and anti-AI sentiment. So the tech firms have concerns on both sides.