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I am not convinced they do, they keep voting to give away their privacy every year.
by hackersnooze1 1mo ago
I am not convinced they do, they keep voting to give away their privacy every year.
- badgersnake 1mo agoThey just don’t read past the headline and the headline usually involves paedophiles.
- madaxe_again 1mo agoI mean, at what point do we say that wilfully refusing to absorb relevant information and then knowingly and willingly making a decision based on that lack of information is, indeed, their will?
- MYEUHD 1mo agoThis is called rational irrationality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_irrationality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_irrationality
- 1718627440 1mo agoThat wikipedia article reads weird. It sounds like a formalized collection of obvious facts.
- basilgohar 1mo agoI think this ignores the fact that there are very converted efforts to use well-researched methods to manipulate and mislead people at the ballotbox in favor of the vested interests. The same interests also conspire to keep people preoccupied with basic needs and distractions that leave them with little time to properly research issues.
- lazide 1mo agoAt the end of the day, does it actually matter? Assuming ‘it’s not their fault’ also removes consequences and/or accountability, which also encourages the behavior.
- 1718627440 1mo agoThe general populace potentially not willing to make informed choices is the reason why we kept monarchy for so long.
- dkdbejwi383 1mo agoI can't imagine this is at top of mind for many voters, or even in mind at all. People are more concerned with things like the cost of living, immigration and things like local planning law.
- devsda 1mo agoIs there really a good party with only the "right" things in their manifesto? Democracy usually does not come with À la carte options.
- atmavatar 1mo agoIt gets easier with an electoral system other than FPTP (e.g., ranked choice, instant runoff), whereby more than 2 parties appear. You can then mix and match multiple parties that support policies you want in a way that you're aiming for particular policies to become the majority rather than any party. For example, for issues taxing the rich (TR), taxing the poor (TP), spending on military (SM), spending on infrastructure (SI), privacy protection (PP), and privacy intrusion (PI) and parties A, C, and D, which support TR/SM/PP, TP/SI/PP, and TR/SI/PI, the coalitions the three parties must form to pass individual bills may get you what you really wanted: TR/SI/PP, even though none of the three parties individually support all three.
- alt227 1mo agoEvery political party in the UK supports things like the Digital Rights Act. So what is a person to do?
- nilamo 1mo agoRevolt and dump tea
- RobotToaster 1mo agoWith what? Plastic butter knives?
- sph 1mo agoToo expensive, there’s a tax on single-use plastic utensils now.
- PaulKeeble 1mo agoAt least 3 parties don't that stand members almost everywhere in the country.
- alt227 1mo agoCare to name them?
- sph 1mo ago[redacted for anti-state sentiment]
- kypro 1mo agoIf these policies were deeply unpopular then political parties wouldn't support them because they'd be giving an easy win to their opponents. Truth is no one really cares.
- alt227 1mo agoTruth is these things are being pushed by heads of department behind the politicians, the ones who have lifetime jobs and dont get voted in. These people and lobbying business owners are pushing very hard on all politicians and lawmakers to force this through, which is why there are more and more politicians in favour of it who dont even understand it.
- ccppurcell 1mo agoThat just means it's not their top priority.
- RobotToaster 1mo agoFirst past the post isn't a genuine democracy.
- parineum 1mo agoWhat is?
- graemep 1mo agoI favour random selection. You end up with a perfectly representative parliament.
- parineum 1mo agoThat's not universally true. It will, eventually, produce a comically unrepresentative group and the time it takes for that to happen will depend on the size of the pool of representatives compared to the population. Fifty representatives randomly selected from a pool of a 300 million has a high chance of being supermajority non-representative.
- RobotToaster 1mo agoIdeally, sortition or direct democracy.
- skippyboxedhero 1mo agoNo, they don't. Turnout in the UK has dropped significantly because it doesn't matter who you vote for, the outcome is the same.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 1mo agoYes, completely giving up is definitely the better option. /s
- tuco86 1mo agoI mean, i go through the motions of voting. but i'm voting against an overwhelming amount of feelings-voters that are easily manipulated. i don't think it makes much difference anymore. If i wasn't busy, local politics is where one could make a difference. Nation politics seems completely captured by now.
- iso1631 1mo agoLocal politics is broadly objecting to planning permission and decide what potholes to spend the tiny amount of discretionary budget on, as the vast majority of council tax goes to paying for care for elderly home owners
- gib444 1mo agoExactly! It's not like we have decades of evidence that the demographic which has consistent high turnout is consistently and significantly politically pandered to in many, many regards. No sir
- iso1631 1mo agoI've seen a lot of changes going through since 2024, and I saw a lot of difference between the 2010-15 coalition and the 2015-24 conservative administration, or the 1997-2010 labour administration.
- duxup 1mo agoYeah I’m inclined to agree. Even with choices of services and their choices on the internet… it’s just not a priority for most users in a way that matters.
- tim333 1mo agoAs a Brit I've never been asked to vote on that. If you are talking about the general election it's not a main issue compared to other things on the ballot.
- gib444 1mo agoFor whom have you voted? We have almost no referenda sure, but sometimes there are strong hints in the manifestos, or things to learn from past behaviour of each party
- tim333 1mo agoI think Labour on the last one but the Tories had anti privacy stuff too and none of the minor parties had any hope of getting in in my area.
- anonymousiam 1mo agoMaybe consider voting Reform the next time around?
- mft_ 1mo agoThat’s the weakness of most modern “democracies”: people vote once every few years for one or other party who then do largely whatever they want, outside of some immutable manifesto commitments (which are often flexible anyway). So no, people don’t vote for such things - they vote for parties who turn out to do such things at some point.