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> Anyone who values Graphene's work will purchase one of their Motorola devices, whatever the cost Well the current Motorola Signature (2026) is 3 times the pr

by palata 1mo ago

> Anyone who values Graphene's work will purchase one of their Motorola devices, whatever the cost Well the current Motorola Signature (2026) is 3 times the price of a Pixel. Not everyone can afford "whatever the cost". I hope Motorola will just get more and more phones to support GrapheneOS.

grapheneos 1mo ago
Here's a direct comparison with the Pixel 11: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Google-Pixel-11-Unlocked-Smartphone-Obsidian/dp/B0H62LV77B/ https://www.amazon.co.uk/Google-Pixel-11-Unlocked-Smartphone... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Signature-XT2603-2-SIM-Free-Smartphone-PANTONE-Carbon/dp/B0H7T8XG6H/ https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Signature-XT2603-2-SIM-Fre... That's the 16GB variant of the Signature. There's also a cheaper 12GB variant, which is particularly competitively priced in India: https://www.motorola.in/smartphones-motorola-signature/p?skuId=610 https://www.motorola.in/smartphones-motorola-signature/p?sku...
- aboringusername 1mo ago
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  - microtonal 1mo ago
    It really depends on where you are. Here (NL) the Signature 2026 is 750 Euro from reputable sellers. But yeah, the Signature is not available everywhere, similar to how the Pixel is not available everywhere.
  - grapheneos 1mo ago
    That's not 3 times the price. It's also a flagship device and that's the model with 16GB storage and 512GB memory. Pixel 11 Pro with RAM/storage upgraded is a better comparison and the Motorola Signature (2026) has vastly better CPU and GPU performance with a cheaper price. Regardless, it's clearly not 3x the price of the regular Pixels and is priced similarly to the Pixel 10 Pro series which was cheaper than the Pixel 11 Pro series.
- palata 1mo ago
  The thing is, you can buy a Pixel 8a or 9 for a fraction of the price. With Motorola at first it will only be the expensive flagship. My hope is that Motorola will have cheaper phones that work with GrapheneOS.
  - grapheneos 1mo ago
    > The thing is, you can buy a Pixel 8a or 9 for a fraction of the price. Those are still going to be supported. In some countries such as Brazil, those are more expensive than a Signature due to not being officially sold there and high import taxes.
protimewaster 1mo ago
> Well the current Motorola Signature (2026) is 3 times the price of a Pixel. I understand the sentiment, certainly, but the price difference depends a lot on which model we're comparing to. The Signature will be the flagship from Motorola, and I'll be very, very surprised if it's 3x the price of the Pixel flagship. Presumably someone who was planning to buy something like the Pixel 10a would be more interested in the non-flagship Motorola devices with GOS support, which are expected to launch later.
- palata 1mo ago
  Sure. But we're talking about a phone with GrapheneOS. If I need to choose a phone with GrapheneOS, there are cheap to expensive Pixels, and it is not clear at all if there will ever be cheap Motorolas. The Signature is very expensive, just like the most expensive Pixel.
  - protimewaster 1mo ago
    > not clear at all if there will ever be cheap Motorolas They've indicated that support will eventually be added for midrange Motorola devices, which I believe are historically price-competitive with the a-series Pixels.
microtonal 1mo ago
I guess it depends where you are. Here the Signature 2026 is 750 Euro, which is about the same price as a Pixel 10 Pro. They are quite a bit more expensive than the a-series, but I'm sure that the a series will hold up for a few more years, until GrapheneOS support percolates to mid-range Motorola phones. It's even possible, given that Pixel 10a uses the Pixel 9 CPU, that Pixel 11a will use the Pixel 10 CPU, so there might even be a new budget model next year with MTE support.

by palata 1mo ago

grapheneos 1mo ago

Here's a direct comparison with the Pixel 11: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Google-Pixel-11-Unlocked-Smartphone-Obsidian/dp/B0H62LV77B/ https://www.amazon.co.uk/Google-Pixel-11-Unlocked-Smartphone... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Signature-XT2603-2-SIM-Free-Smartphone-PANTONE-Carbon/dp/B0H7T8XG6H/ https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Signature-XT2603-2-SIM-Fre... That's the 16GB variant of the Signature. There's also a cheaper 12GB variant, which is particularly competitively priced in India: https://www.motorola.in/smartphones-motorola-signature/p?skuId=610 https://www.motorola.in/smartphones-motorola-signature/p?sku...

aboringusername 1mo ago
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- microtonal 1mo ago
  It really depends on where you are. Here (NL) the Signature 2026 is 750 Euro from reputable sellers. But yeah, the Signature is not available everywhere, similar to how the Pixel is not available everywhere.
- grapheneos 1mo ago
  That's not 3 times the price. It's also a flagship device and that's the model with 16GB storage and 512GB memory. Pixel 11 Pro with RAM/storage upgraded is a better comparison and the Motorola Signature (2026) has vastly better CPU and GPU performance with a cheaper price. Regardless, it's clearly not 3x the price of the regular Pixels and is priced similarly to the Pixel 10 Pro series which was cheaper than the Pixel 11 Pro series.
palata 1mo ago
The thing is, you can buy a Pixel 8a or 9 for a fraction of the price. With Motorola at first it will only be the expensive flagship. My hope is that Motorola will have cheaper phones that work with GrapheneOS.
- grapheneos 1mo ago
  > The thing is, you can buy a Pixel 8a or 9 for a fraction of the price. Those are still going to be supported. In some countries such as Brazil, those are more expensive than a Signature due to not being officially sold there and high import taxes.

protimewaster 1mo ago

> Well the current Motorola Signature (2026) is 3 times the price of a Pixel. I understand the sentiment, certainly, but the price difference depends a lot on which model we're comparing to. The Signature will be the flagship from Motorola, and I'll be very, very surprised if it's 3x the price of the Pixel flagship. Presumably someone who was planning to buy something like the Pixel 10a would be more interested in the non-flagship Motorola devices with GOS support, which are expected to launch later.

palata 1mo ago
Sure. But we're talking about a phone with GrapheneOS. If I need to choose a phone with GrapheneOS, there are cheap to expensive Pixels, and it is not clear at all if there will ever be cheap Motorolas. The Signature is very expensive, just like the most expensive Pixel.
- protimewaster 1mo ago
  > not clear at all if there will ever be cheap Motorolas They've indicated that support will eventually be added for midrange Motorola devices, which I believe are historically price-competitive with the a-series Pixels.

microtonal 1mo ago

I guess it depends where you are. Here the Signature 2026 is 750 Euro, which is about the same price as a Pixel 10 Pro. They are quite a bit more expensive than the a-series, but I'm sure that the a series will hold up for a few more years, until GrapheneOS support percolates to mid-range Motorola phones. It's even possible, given that Pixel 10a uses the Pixel 9 CPU, that Pixel 11a will use the Pixel 10 CPU, so there might even be a new budget model next year with MTE support.