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> At the Eighth Annual Tree Diversity Conference on March 4th, our Front Range conditions for growing trees was described as “harsh”. Wow, didn't even know tha

> At the Eighth Annual Tree Diversity Conference on March 4th, our Front Range conditions for growing trees was described as “harsh”. Wow, didn't even know that there was such a thing. The article is... beautiful, in a sense. It is SO clear that it is not written by AI (it's from 2022, in fact), and it seems refreshing to read something without the need to constantly ask yourself what was written with AI and what by a human mind. Anyway... Planting trees is getting worse and worse. Our climate is pretty much f*cked. That, in 2026, is abuntantly clear. Sigh.

dotancohen 1mo ago
What does it mean that planting trees is getting worse? In my country we have a holiday for planting trees. The school children plant a tree every year - and when my children were younger I would plant with them.
- talon8635 1mo ago
  I too would like to know what such a bold statement could mean
  - tito 1mo ago
    Excerpt from the article: "Conditions are predicted to be getting worse. At the Tree Conference, speakers were confident in models showing temperatures increasing more rapidly than in the past and even faster for higher elevations because heat rises. On top of that, large numbers of ash trees, cottonwoods, and weak trees will be disappearing, increasing the “heat island effect”."
- pvaldes 1mo ago
  How many of this trees survived this year? Planting is easy. Assuring that the trees will not be stolen or destroyed later is getting more and more difficult each year by the antiscience/antihuman current trend. The provoked wildfires in most of US, Canada and Europe this year had destroyed decades of work. And the changing climate too fast to allow the forests to adapt to much more heat, and dry spells, and stronger storms, and more salt from the sea level raising... is a big challenge. And is an asymmetrical game. The group of people that spend their own resources (and get poorer) to save nature can't win against the group of people that get richer destroying nature, even if they pay a small fine eventually only the bad actors can win. Many people has the feeling that the huge efforts on conservation of rainforests, oceans or local nature is just fattening the goose until some criminal eventually come, grab and cash. After some decades playing of this game one group starves and shrinks while the other have a feast of resources and buys everything
- PowerElectronix 1mo ago
  I guess they mean it's harsh because it's Colorado. Bad soil, scarce rain, scorching summers, freezing winters... So they have to take extra care with the species they plant.
- oasisbob 1mo ago
  In my climate, tree establishment is getting more difficult and expensive because of stronger summer droughts. The local city plans for five years of establishment watering now, at an overall establishment cost of ~$4,000 per tree.
  - dotancohen 1mo ago
    Shouldn't that money come from increased taxes on one of the primary causes of the climate change making it more expensive? E.g. gasoline automobile fuel?
    - nephihaha 1mo ago
      One private jet flight produces more pollution than a car does in its entire lifetime. They spray their exhaust fumes thousands of feet up in the sky Yet private jets do not get anything like the same exemptions. I wonder why.
      - dotancohen 1mo ago
        How frequent are private jet flights? How frequent are car trips? And for that matter, I don't in fact know how much jet fuel is taxed. Do you?
        nephihaha 1mo ago
        Yes, I do happen to know about jet fuel. There was a scandal at one of the COP summits when it was announced that private jets and private yachts would not have the same tax rates. Private jet flights are extremely frequent, and are used by wealthy or powerful people. They even use them to go climate conferences. They are used to go to the WEF at Davos in Switzerland, and there are supposed to be so many going there that they have to build extra hangar space. Even someone like Taylor Swift reportedly uses a private jet all the time to go to her fiancé's games. All of those exhaust fumes go straight into the upper atmosphere.
  - nephihaha 1mo ago

dotancohen 1mo ago

What does it mean that planting trees is getting worse? In my country we have a holiday for planting trees. The school children plant a tree every year - and when my children were younger I would plant with them.

talon8635 1mo ago
I too would like to know what such a bold statement could mean
- tito 1mo ago
  Excerpt from the article: "Conditions are predicted to be getting worse. At the Tree Conference, speakers were confident in models showing temperatures increasing more rapidly than in the past and even faster for higher elevations because heat rises. On top of that, large numbers of ash trees, cottonwoods, and weak trees will be disappearing, increasing the “heat island effect”."
pvaldes 1mo ago
How many of this trees survived this year? Planting is easy. Assuring that the trees will not be stolen or destroyed later is getting more and more difficult each year by the antiscience/antihuman current trend. The provoked wildfires in most of US, Canada and Europe this year had destroyed decades of work. And the changing climate too fast to allow the forests to adapt to much more heat, and dry spells, and stronger storms, and more salt from the sea level raising... is a big challenge. And is an asymmetrical game. The group of people that spend their own resources (and get poorer) to save nature can't win against the group of people that get richer destroying nature, even if they pay a small fine eventually only the bad actors can win. Many people has the feeling that the huge efforts on conservation of rainforests, oceans or local nature is just fattening the goose until some criminal eventually come, grab and cash. After some decades playing of this game one group starves and shrinks while the other have a feast of resources and buys everything
PowerElectronix 1mo ago
I guess they mean it's harsh because it's Colorado. Bad soil, scarce rain, scorching summers, freezing winters... So they have to take extra care with the species they plant.
oasisbob 1mo ago
In my climate, tree establishment is getting more difficult and expensive because of stronger summer droughts. The local city plans for five years of establishment watering now, at an overall establishment cost of ~$4,000 per tree.
- dotancohen 1mo ago
  Shouldn't that money come from increased taxes on one of the primary causes of the climate change making it more expensive? E.g. gasoline automobile fuel?
  - nephihaha 1mo ago
    One private jet flight produces more pollution than a car does in its entire lifetime. They spray their exhaust fumes thousands of feet up in the sky Yet private jets do not get anything like the same exemptions. I wonder why.
    - dotancohen 1mo ago
      How frequent are private jet flights? How frequent are car trips? And for that matter, I don't in fact know how much jet fuel is taxed. Do you?
      - nephihaha 1mo ago
        Yes, I do happen to know about jet fuel. There was a scandal at one of the COP summits when it was announced that private jets and private yachts would not have the same tax rates. Private jet flights are extremely frequent, and are used by wealthy or powerful people. They even use them to go climate conferences. They are used to go to the WEF at Davos in Switzerland, and there are supposed to be so many going there that they have to build extra hangar space. Even someone like Taylor Swift reportedly uses a private jet all the time to go to her fiancé's games. All of those exhaust fumes go straight into the upper atmosphere.
- nephihaha 1mo ago