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They purchased Motorola Mobility for the patent portfolio as essentially a nuclear deterrent against Apple and then sold it to Lenovo. They're doing quite well

They purchased Motorola Mobility for the patent portfolio as essentially a nuclear deterrent against Apple and then sold it to Lenovo. They're doing quite well internationally but haven't been a big brand in the US for a while. Their flagship phones are going to have GrapheneOS as a selling point soon and we'll hopefully be able to expand beyond the high end over the next couple years.

GeekyBear 2mo ago
> They purchased Motorola Mobility for the patent portfolio as essentially a nuclear deterrent against Apple By Apple, you mean Microsoft. The early Android device makers had to pay a per device patent licensing fee to Microsoft. Google sued Microsoft for massive amounts of money using video standards essential patents they purchased from Motorola, but it didn't work out well for them in court. https://www.ft.com/content/46d36fce-15c6-11e3-950a-00144feabdc0?syn-25a6b1a6=1 https://www.ft.com/content/46d36fce-15c6-11e3-950a-00144feab...
- grapheneos 2mo ago
  Apple was actively going after Android OEMs including Samsung too. We did mean Apple but Microsoft was also relevant. The point was that they primarily bought Motorola Mobility to strip mine it for patents.
  - GeekyBear 2mo ago
    The company that Google targeted with their Motorola patents was Microsoft. Google sought to ban the sale of Microsoft products that used the H.264 video standard on a global basis if Microsoft didn't hand over a literal fortune. > Microsoft and Motorola are embroiled in a legal spat around the world over the software giant’s alleged use of Motorola industry-standard H.264 patents in its many products. Motorola has argued that Microsoft has used the technology illegally and should have its products banned until it licenses them. Motorola says that Microsoft should pay $4 billion for the use of its technology, applying a 2.25 percent royalty based on product price. https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/microsoft-wins-big-one-in-motorola-patent-infringement-suit/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/microsoft-wins-big-o...
hypercube33 2mo ago
I have my parents and in laws running Moto phones. They hold up well, are well built, just no big flagship phone that I'm drawn to. I like their flat screens, SD cards, headphone jacks, all that good stuff. I think their cameras are getting better now too so that'll probably tip me over with the icky new Pixel 11's

GeekyBear 2mo ago

> They purchased Motorola Mobility for the patent portfolio as essentially a nuclear deterrent against Apple By Apple, you mean Microsoft. The early Android device makers had to pay a per device patent licensing fee to Microsoft. Google sued Microsoft for massive amounts of money using video standards essential patents they purchased from Motorola, but it didn't work out well for them in court. https://www.ft.com/content/46d36fce-15c6-11e3-950a-00144feabdc0?syn-25a6b1a6=1 https://www.ft.com/content/46d36fce-15c6-11e3-950a-00144feab...

grapheneos 2mo ago
Apple was actively going after Android OEMs including Samsung too. We did mean Apple but Microsoft was also relevant. The point was that they primarily bought Motorola Mobility to strip mine it for patents.
- GeekyBear 2mo ago
  The company that Google targeted with their Motorola patents was Microsoft. Google sought to ban the sale of Microsoft products that used the H.264 video standard on a global basis if Microsoft didn't hand over a literal fortune. > Microsoft and Motorola are embroiled in a legal spat around the world over the software giant’s alleged use of Motorola industry-standard H.264 patents in its many products. Motorola has argued that Microsoft has used the technology illegally and should have its products banned until it licenses them. Motorola says that Microsoft should pay $4 billion for the use of its technology, applying a 2.25 percent royalty based on product price. https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/microsoft-wins-big-one-in-motorola-patent-infringement-suit/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/microsoft-wins-big-o...

hypercube33 2mo ago

I have my parents and in laws running Moto phones. They hold up well, are well built, just no big flagship phone that I'm drawn to. I like their flat screens, SD cards, headphone jacks, all that good stuff. I think their cameras are getting better now too so that'll probably tip me over with the icky new Pixel 11's