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I will slightly disagree on a small slice: Their harness/instruction makes Opus/Fable so much better to work with. Honestly, _this_ was their moat more than Co

I will slightly disagree on a small slice: Their harness/instruction makes Opus/Fable so much better to work with. Honestly, _this_ was their moat more than Composer to me.

dakolli 1mo ago
Couldn't you just download cursor, not even pay for any account and hook up an Anthropic api key and get that functionality? I dont know how cursor works. Everytime ive tried to use, its super buggy and has memory leaks that make my very quite PC sound like a jet engine.
- raincole 1mo ago
  You can just pirate Adobe's software and their marketcap is 115.88B.
- natdempk 1mo ago
  Cursor charges the “Cursor Token Rate” for BYOK https://cursor.com/docs/models-and-pricing#cursor-token-rate https://cursor.com/docs/models-and-pricing#cursor-token-rate
  - sourcecodeplz 1mo ago
    No. Its is not for bring your own key. It is for 3rd party models (which you get double the amount of your sub price as usage). Of course they wont charge you extra for BYOK. how would they???
    - ch_sm 1mo ago
      To be fair, that is what it says on their website.
    - natdempk 28d ago
      They do for Teams and Enterprise plans BYOK: > On Teams and Enterprise plans, third-party model requests include a Cursor Token Rate of $0.25 per million tokens. This rate applies on top of model API pricing for included usage, on-demand usage, and BYOK usage. See the link I posted above or also this one: https://cursor.com/help/models-and-usage/token-rate https://cursor.com/help/models-and-usage/token-rate
  - dakolli 1mo ago
    Who are the peoole using this and why is it worth 60b lol
mbesto 1mo ago
If the Opus/Fable harness is superior and it's written using Opus/Fable then it will cease to be a moat. Otherwise the premise for coding using LLMs is essentially untrue.
- re-thc 1mo ago
  > Otherwise the premise for coding using LLMs is essentially untrue. Why? Written by does not mean designed by etc. There's a lot more to it.

I will slightly disagree on a small slice: Their harness/instruction makes Opus/Fable so much better to work with. Honestly, _this_ was their moat more than Composer to me.

dakolli 1mo ago

Couldn't you just download cursor, not even pay for any account and hook up an Anthropic api key and get that functionality? I dont know how cursor works. Everytime ive tried to use, its super buggy and has memory leaks that make my very quite PC sound like a jet engine.

raincole 1mo ago
You can just pirate Adobe's software and their marketcap is 115.88B.
natdempk 1mo ago
Cursor charges the “Cursor Token Rate” for BYOK https://cursor.com/docs/models-and-pricing#cursor-token-rate https://cursor.com/docs/models-and-pricing#cursor-token-rate
- sourcecodeplz 1mo ago
  No. Its is not for bring your own key. It is for 3rd party models (which you get double the amount of your sub price as usage). Of course they wont charge you extra for BYOK. how would they???
  - ch_sm 1mo ago
    To be fair, that is what it says on their website.
  - natdempk 28d ago
    They do for Teams and Enterprise plans BYOK: > On Teams and Enterprise plans, third-party model requests include a Cursor Token Rate of $0.25 per million tokens. This rate applies on top of model API pricing for included usage, on-demand usage, and BYOK usage. See the link I posted above or also this one: https://cursor.com/help/models-and-usage/token-rate https://cursor.com/help/models-and-usage/token-rate
- dakolli 1mo ago
  Who are the peoole using this and why is it worth 60b lol

mbesto 1mo ago

If the Opus/Fable harness is superior and it's written using Opus/Fable then it will cease to be a moat. Otherwise the premise for coding using LLMs is essentially untrue.

re-thc 1mo ago
> Otherwise the premise for coding using LLMs is essentially untrue. Why? Written by does not mean designed by etc. There's a lot more to it.