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> but no indication of what that means The very first thing it means is that a firm has to understand the new law and then determine what changes it requires.
by ahupp 1mo ago
> but no indication of what that means
The very first thing it means is that a firm has to understand the new law and then determine what changes it requires. And as a firm gets smaller that makes the relative burden higher. Of course this shouldn’t imply you never change anything, but it does mean every incremental new regulation is a ratchet that shifts in favor of large firms. The EU estimates this regulation avoids 23Mt of CO2[0], which is about 0.8% of EU emissions. Not sure that’s the place to focus unless you can make a case that it will have spillover effects into other markets.
[0] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-002188-ASW_EN.html https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-00218...
- mappu 1mo agoI have no skin in this game, but just because they're doing it doesn't mean it's their focus, the EU is big enough to work on multiple 0.8%-size wins all over the place.
- teaearlgraycold 1mo ago0.8% actually sounds pretty good
- a2ff6eeb0 1mo agoAlmost a 1% win, just by changing packaging? That seems massive.
- AlotOfReading 1mo ago0.8% at the size of the EU economy is a huge win. It's slightly smaller than Denmark's fossil fuel emissions. Though, the savings are presumably calculated over several years while Denmark produces it every single year.
- inigyou 1mo agoRealistically if you're a small company, you just do it, until someone tells you "hey you're supposed to comply with X" and then you say "oh sorry, we didn't realise, we'll do that now", repeat for all X. Programmers think the written law is a description of what actually happens - it's not.
- veeti 1mo agoThe people effected by this are not programmers sitting around in their underwear talking to Claude all day and peddling virtual wares. It's people making real things with their hands, and they have come to the conclusion they can not take such a risk. Fines in countries like Germany can run up to 200 000 euros, for which you can be personally liable.
- inigyou 1mo agoNo, it's programmers online who are larping making real things. People who actually make real things may be concerned and may push to clarify the law but they're not ceasing. People who actually live in the EU and do business there understand that the interpretation that's going around the angry internet forums is complete nonsense.
- veeti 1mo agoFine. Here are 120 million very serious (TM) Büsiness-People from the EU who seem to agree: https://www.eurochambres.eu/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/New-EU-packaging-rules-contradict-competitiveness-and-single-market-policy-objectives.pdf https://www.eurochambres.eu/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/New-E... What kind of source would you like next? "Just don't follow the law" might be a good advice for the American hypercapitalists of Hacker News, less so for someone in the EU.
- inigyou 1mo agoNotice how it's "raises concerns over" and not "have been forced by police to shut down their businesses"
- veeti 1mo agoIt is evident you don't understand how the business landscape or risk management in EU works, you have not done even one bit of research to back up your claims, so why are you even commenting? Maybe if you see such a opportunity in dismissing the rules you ought to start your own.