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anything privacy sensitive You've got that backwards. Web is more private than an app. Every regulated healthcare company has a web site. None require an "app

anything privacy sensitive You've got that backwards. Web is more private than an app. Every regulated healthcare company has a web site. None require an "app."

willtemperley 2mo ago
It depends. Truly working offline, which is as private as it gets in many scenarios, isn’t really feasible with web apps.
- reaperducer 2mo ago
  You could also work in a windowless steel box inside a cave at the top of a mountain, if you really want to move the goalposts.
  - willtemperley 2mo ago
    Why is this moving the goalposts? Native apps can work reasonably well offline and online. Web apps can’t, currently.
    - em3rgent0rdr 2mo ago
      "Progressive web apps" can be installed to be used offline: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_web_app https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_web_app
dmayle 2mo ago
Nope... What you're talking about is not privacy sensitivity, but trust. For you, you don't trust the provider of the software, so you mean being able to put a barrier around your life, and the delivered software... you think that by running in a browser, you're preventing that code from being connected to anything else... However, anything that happens in that code is directly connected to the provider, whom you don't trust. I'm referring to the opposite... having something connected to your life, but having a barrier disconnecting it from the outside world... It involves trusting the provider of the software (maybe it's open source), but even if you don't, you can install an app, cut the network, use it locally, then delete it before restoring the network, and you have a guarantee that what you did with it was private... It's possible to build that into a web app, but most websites don't work offline, where most apps (though not all), do work offline... even if it requires an initial network session to establish authorization

anything privacy sensitive You've got that backwards. Web is more private than an app. Every regulated healthcare company has a web site. None require an "app."

willtemperley 2mo ago

It depends. Truly working offline, which is as private as it gets in many scenarios, isn’t really feasible with web apps.

reaperducer 2mo ago
You could also work in a windowless steel box inside a cave at the top of a mountain, if you really want to move the goalposts.
- willtemperley 2mo ago
  Why is this moving the goalposts? Native apps can work reasonably well offline and online. Web apps can’t, currently.
  - em3rgent0rdr 2mo ago
    "Progressive web apps" can be installed to be used offline: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_web_app https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_web_app

dmayle 2mo ago

Nope... What you're talking about is not privacy sensitivity, but trust. For you, you don't trust the provider of the software, so you mean being able to put a barrier around your life, and the delivered software... you think that by running in a browser, you're preventing that code from being connected to anything else... However, anything that happens in that code is directly connected to the provider, whom you don't trust. I'm referring to the opposite... having something connected to your life, but having a barrier disconnecting it from the outside world... It involves trusting the provider of the software (maybe it's open source), but even if you don't, you can install an app, cut the network, use it locally, then delete it before restoring the network, and you have a guarantee that what you did with it was private... It's possible to build that into a web app, but most websites don't work offline, where most apps (though not all), do work offline... even if it requires an initial network session to establish authorization