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`requests` has a friendlier API than the standard library. However, it does not support newer versions of HTTP, nor does it support `async`. The maintainer cons

by t098i3 1mo ago

`requests` has a friendlier API than the standard library. However, it does not support newer versions of HTTP, nor does it support `async`. The maintainer considers it complete, feature-frozen software, IIRC - they'd rather keep it stable for existing users and let other libraries succeed it. `aiohttp` supports `async` but was never popular for non-async `httpx` supported newer HTTP versions and both async and non-async. However the maintainer decided to close all outside submissions, issues and discussions for personal reasons. `httpx2` is a maintained fork of `httpx`

BoumTAC 1mo ago
Thanks for the explanation !
lofaszvanitt 1mo ago
And why don't people use pycurl? Curl is the king of the hill...
- t098i3 1mo ago
  There are tradeoffs to the non-Python HTTP libraries like pycurl and pyreqwests, namely: - Non-portability to alternative Python implementations or environments without the supporting C libraries - Less visibility into the client internals (for debugging etc)
  - lofaszvanitt 1mo ago
    Thx!
niltecedu 1mo ago
Also niquests as well which is a dropin replacement and imo wayyy better than httpx
- JackSlateur 1mo ago
  niquest is something like a one-man-show, which is an issue-per-se Of course, it is clearly superior to everything else (being authored by a french guy !). But sadly, some people do not accept this simple fact :(
  - fmajid 1mo ago
    “Niquer” means “to f*ck” in French slang
giov4 1mo ago
thanks for the summary. >`httpx` supported newer HTTP versions and both async and non-async. However the maintainer decided to close all outside submissions, issues and discussions for personal reasons. how can something like this happen? and which positive consequence there can be out of that?
- t098i3 1mo ago
  > how can something like this happen? https://xkcd.com/2347 https://xkcd.com/2347 Specifically in this case, the consensus seems to be the maintainer is having some mental health struggles and chose to close out outside contribution.
  - giov4 1mo ago
    ohh thanks for that xkcd! totally right! only problem I have and that's probably why I didn't associate it directly myself is that I see the example very valid for many other FOSS cases. but in this case it feels like the part at the bottom is made of multiple random persons, not a single one, and one of those random persons decided to exclude all the other random persons. so maybe the lower layer shall be represented as made of multiple pieces that fight each other, beside the all modern shit on top of it.
RantyDave 1mo ago
'urllib3' completely saved me once. We had to authenticate with the border proxy using a certificate, then make a request to a web service ... that needed authenticating with a certificate. Urllib3 was the only one that could do it.
- anakaine 1mo ago
  I've had to do similar in the past, and also wound up on urllib3.

by t098i3 1mo ago

BoumTAC 1mo ago

Thanks for the explanation !

lofaszvanitt 1mo ago

And why don't people use pycurl? Curl is the king of the hill...

t098i3 1mo ago
There are tradeoffs to the non-Python HTTP libraries like pycurl and pyreqwests, namely: - Non-portability to alternative Python implementations or environments without the supporting C libraries - Less visibility into the client internals (for debugging etc)
- lofaszvanitt 1mo ago
  Thx!

niltecedu 1mo ago

Also niquests as well which is a dropin replacement and imo wayyy better than httpx

JackSlateur 1mo ago
niquest is something like a one-man-show, which is an issue-per-se Of course, it is clearly superior to everything else (being authored by a french guy !). But sadly, some people do not accept this simple fact :(
- fmajid 1mo ago
  “Niquer” means “to f*ck” in French slang

giov4 1mo ago

thanks for the summary. >`httpx` supported newer HTTP versions and both async and non-async. However the maintainer decided to close all outside submissions, issues and discussions for personal reasons. how can something like this happen? and which positive consequence there can be out of that?

t098i3 1mo ago
> how can something like this happen? https://xkcd.com/2347 https://xkcd.com/2347 Specifically in this case, the consensus seems to be the maintainer is having some mental health struggles and chose to close out outside contribution.
- giov4 1mo ago
  ohh thanks for that xkcd! totally right! only problem I have and that's probably why I didn't associate it directly myself is that I see the example very valid for many other FOSS cases. but in this case it feels like the part at the bottom is made of multiple random persons, not a single one, and one of those random persons decided to exclude all the other random persons. so maybe the lower layer shall be represented as made of multiple pieces that fight each other, beside the all modern shit on top of it.

RantyDave 1mo ago

'urllib3' completely saved me once. We had to authenticate with the border proxy using a certificate, then make a request to a web service ... that needed authenticating with a certificate. Urllib3 was the only one that could do it.

anakaine 1mo ago
I've had to do similar in the past, and also wound up on urllib3.