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Next time the author would like to write an article like that, it’s better that they offer a new standard that is as flexible while also doing the work YAML is

Next time the author would like to write an article like that, it’s better that they offer a new standard that is as flexible while also doing the work YAML is doing today

embedding-shape 1mo ago
EDN? Probably too flexible from some perspectives. No surprise Norways though.
- cheptsov 1mo ago
  That’s the problem people IMO don’t understand - flexibility is one of many requirements; simplicity and ecosystem around are two more. Hating YAML is same as being childish - yo using like something but can’t come up with anything better. Worse than YAML can be only complaining about YAML. Hating YAML is a cliche. Its much easier to come up with jokes like this website than to change the ecosystem for better. And I definitely think the websites like this is opposite to the engineering approach. Not defending YAML though in particular. Edit: grammar
  - fodkodrasz 1mo ago
    The modern societies are being infantilized. This is a symptom of that.
  - embedding-shape 1mo ago
    > That’s the problem people IMO don’t understand - flexibility is one of many requirements; simplicity and ecosystem around are two more. Biggest issue IMO is moving goal posts and people wanting one format to do it all. Different formats are good for different things, except YAML, which again tries to do it all yet excels at nothing.
  - feelamee 1mo ago
    > Worse than YAML can be only complaining about YAML. Hating YAML is a cliche. Its cliche for you, but not all people know about YAML problems. If it is not interesting for you and people who already know about this, why open this thread? Let people explore something new, if they are interested in it. > Its much easier to come up with jokes like this website than to change the ecosystem for better. Speaking about problems is also valuable. The more people know about them, the more chance of a solution.
Ygg2 1mo ago
KDL? https://kdl.dev/ https://kdl.dev/
voidUpdate 1mo ago
TOML? It's what I've been using for complex configuration in personal projects (more complex than command line switches)

Next time the author would like to write an article like that, it’s better that they offer a new standard that is as flexible while also doing the work YAML is doing today

embedding-shape 1mo ago

EDN? Probably too flexible from some perspectives. No surprise Norways though.

cheptsov 1mo ago
That’s the problem people IMO don’t understand - flexibility is one of many requirements; simplicity and ecosystem around are two more. Hating YAML is same as being childish - yo using like something but can’t come up with anything better. Worse than YAML can be only complaining about YAML. Hating YAML is a cliche. Its much easier to come up with jokes like this website than to change the ecosystem for better. And I definitely think the websites like this is opposite to the engineering approach. Not defending YAML though in particular. Edit: grammar
- fodkodrasz 1mo ago
  The modern societies are being infantilized. This is a symptom of that.
- embedding-shape 1mo ago
  > That’s the problem people IMO don’t understand - flexibility is one of many requirements; simplicity and ecosystem around are two more. Biggest issue IMO is moving goal posts and people wanting one format to do it all. Different formats are good for different things, except YAML, which again tries to do it all yet excels at nothing.
- feelamee 1mo ago
  > Worse than YAML can be only complaining about YAML. Hating YAML is a cliche. Its cliche for you, but not all people know about YAML problems. If it is not interesting for you and people who already know about this, why open this thread? Let people explore something new, if they are interested in it. > Its much easier to come up with jokes like this website than to change the ecosystem for better. Speaking about problems is also valuable. The more people know about them, the more chance of a solution.

Ygg2 1mo ago

KDL? https://kdl.dev/ https://kdl.dev/

voidUpdate 1mo ago

TOML? It's what I've been using for complex configuration in personal projects (more complex than command line switches)