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The article seems misleading implying it's due to the ""collective’s “far-left” politics"" which seem odd as far left isn't illegal. If you look at the govt an
by tim333 1mo ago
The article seems misleading implying it's due to the ""collective’s “far-left” politics"" which seem odd as far left isn't illegal.
If you look at the govt announcement it cites:
>multiple high-profile instances of breaking into defense infrastructure and British military installations, and causing millions of dollars’ worth of damage to military equipment. Palestine Action has promoted its violent, criminal, and terrorist acts on social media, encouraging the use of similar tactics internationally, including within the United States and along the U.S.-Mexican border.
and the like https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616 https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616
So it's breaking in and destroying stuff which is illegal, not the far left.
- lesostep 1mo agoThe problematic thing is the implication that holding a similar view automatically makes you a part of the same organization. Terrorist groups are more traditionally defined as an organized groups that use terrorism as a military tactic to achieve their goals. noblogs.org never used such tactics nor supported them. If we call anyone a terrorist, if they have at least one view similar to those who did terrorist acts, we only need 2 quite specific terrorist acts to cover all earths population.
- tim333 1mo agoThe action is against Autistici Inventati, not noblogs. The govt argument is >Autistici Inventati [...] exclusively provides its services to vetted individuals, collectives, and groups it perceives to be aligned with its ideology, including to sanctioned terrorist organizations...
- queenkjuul 1mo agoLmao the Italian blogging platform has nothing to do with Palestine Action, did you even read the article? Or do you even pay attention? "Far left" has been illegal in the past and trump clearly wants it so again
- tim333 1mo agoYes. The Palestine Action bit is in the government complaint not the article. My point was the article glosses over or doesn't mention the actual reasons the government cites. (https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616 https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616 discussed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49451343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49451343)
- inigyou 1mo agoWhy should it cite them? They're just excuses.
- tim333 1mo agoIf you want to understand a situation it sometimes makes sense to state the facts?
- inigyou 1mo agoYou mean the excuses. Maybe. But I don't think so. It literally doesn't matter what reasons the government said, and the reasons the government said have no relation to facts or reality. What does matter is that the government doesn't like this group and put them on a certain list.
- queenkjuul 1mo agoAnd the reason given for the Italian collective was their far left politics...