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Hi Neil, fun to see you on HN. I agree with your points and I you summarized it very well as "Ultimately, open source is built on trust". AI is destroying trus

Hi Neil, fun to see you on HN. I agree with your points and I you summarized it very well as "Ultimately, open source is built on trust". AI is destroying trust in open source and many other areas and I think this will discourage teams from publishing their source code in the future. On the other hand, personal connections are becoming even more important, which is unfair to the younger generation and people who don't live near tech hubs.

inigyou 1mo ago
Today's conception of open source is different from the original anyway. It used to be "we made this thing, here's the code" but now it's turned into some kind of weird parasocial thing more akin to Facebook.
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- bitwize 1mo ago
  I explained GitHub to a friend as "like DeviantArt, but for code". And it is true, but that just means the bar for expectations has been raised thanks to early open source success. Tarball drops don't cut it anymore (unless you're Alphabet, Inc.) and you actually have to foster a community around what you release in order to attract bug reports and contributions. And you need a code of conduct, and a code of conduct enforcement committee, and a steering committee or board of directors, and...
  - hypfer 1mo ago
    You don't need any of that, usually. You just scratch your own itch and you're done. There is no need to "attract contribution", usually, as usually, your project will do exactly what you need.
  - inigyou 1mo ago
    if you want success on DeviantArt. where is sqlite's GitHub? It doesn't have one because it drops tarballs.
- locknitpicker 1mo ago
  > Today's conception of open source is different from the original anyway. It used to be "we made this thing, here's the code" but now it's turned into some kind of weird parasocial thing more akin to Facebook. I didn't agree with your comment when I glanced through it, but then further ahead in the discussion I stumbled upon a whole thread of people commenting that PRs generated by AI coding assistants are strealing merit, and even posters talking about the need to tell apart AI PRs from AI-free PRs with proof of work schemes just to feed the merit angle. Crazy times we live in.

inigyou 1mo ago

Today's conception of open source is different from the original anyway. It used to be "we made this thing, here's the code" but now it's turned into some kind of weird parasocial thing more akin to Facebook.

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bitwize 1mo ago
I explained GitHub to a friend as "like DeviantArt, but for code". And it is true, but that just means the bar for expectations has been raised thanks to early open source success. Tarball drops don't cut it anymore (unless you're Alphabet, Inc.) and you actually have to foster a community around what you release in order to attract bug reports and contributions. And you need a code of conduct, and a code of conduct enforcement committee, and a steering committee or board of directors, and...
- hypfer 1mo ago
  You don't need any of that, usually. You just scratch your own itch and you're done. There is no need to "attract contribution", usually, as usually, your project will do exactly what you need.
- inigyou 1mo ago
  if you want success on DeviantArt. where is sqlite's GitHub? It doesn't have one because it drops tarballs.
locknitpicker 1mo ago
> Today's conception of open source is different from the original anyway. It used to be "we made this thing, here's the code" but now it's turned into some kind of weird parasocial thing more akin to Facebook. I didn't agree with your comment when I glanced through it, but then further ahead in the discussion I stumbled upon a whole thread of people commenting that PRs generated by AI coding assistants are strealing merit, and even posters talking about the need to tell apart AI PRs from AI-free PRs with proof of work schemes just to feed the merit angle. Crazy times we live in.