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That's only about 50 cows. This isn't a big recall. Total slaughter of cows in Texas is about 1.8 million head per year.

by Animats 1mo ago

cosmicgadget 1mo ago
You can get 30k pounds of beef from 50 cows?
- abstractbeliefs 1mo ago
  30,000 split 50 ways is 800lbs per cow (270kg), seems not unrealistic. Even if you halve the yield to 400lbs then it's only 100 cows
  - sehansen 1mo ago
    800 lbs is 360 kg, but I think you meant 600 lbs per cow. Still seems realistic.
- blooalien 1mo ago
  > You can get 30k pounds of beef from 50 cows? This article [1] says you get about 500-ish pounds of beef from one cow, so 25,000-ish pounds from 50 cows? They weren't massively far off the mark there. [1]: https://cattledaily.com/how-much-meat-do-you-get-from-one-cow/ https://cattledaily.com/how-much-meat-do-you-get-from-one-co...
  - Animats 1mo ago
    About 500 pounds of "take home packaged beef". At the import level it's usually "hanging weight" of a beef carcass before butchering, about 700 pounds. In this case, according to Beef Magazine [1], there had been some preliminary butchering at the sending end , with the take home packages to be made up at the local supermarket, which would result in some midrange weight per cow. More to the point, Beef Magazine reports this as an ordinary inspection failure event. It's a recall because, for some reason, the beef didn't go through USDA incoming inspection, and this wasn't discovered until three months later, long after the beef had been sold, and probably consumed. That's a failure of Customs and Border Protection, which is supposed to make sure that doesn't happen. Beef Magazine says that's an automatic trigger for a Class I recall. It's not a political decision. Unlike the CBS article, the Beef Magazine article names the shipper and gives the lot numbers of the recalled beef. The Beef Magazine author has a degree in agricultural production, teaches Animal and Range Science at Montana State University, and worked their way up from cattle ranch foreman to director of Montana’s Beef Quality Assurance program. He probably knows something about beef. The CBS author has a degree in Law and Public Policy and has given a TED talk. His LinkedIn profile says he is "one of America's leading food safety advocates." I'd go with what Beef Magazine says here. [1] https://www.beefmagazine.com/market-news/argentine-beef-recalled https://www.beefmagazine.com/market-news/argentine-beef-reca...
    - blooalien 1mo ago
      > About 500 pounds of "take home packaged beef". At the import level it's usually "hanging weight" of a beef carcass before butchering, about 700 pounds. I'm fine with "about 700 pounds", but that's still not too far off from the 30k pounds the original comment stated for around 50 cows (just over a bit instead of under a bit), so it still holds true that their guesstimate isn't all that far off-base.
    - mysterydip 1mo ago
      “According to Beef Magazine” wasn’t a phrase I expected to read today, but I’m delighted to add it to my lexicon
      - glitchbot 1mo ago
        !
        Animats 1mo ago
        Specialty sources, the ones people in the affected industry read, tend to be reasonably accurate, because their readership knows the subject and will notice errors. If you want to know which data centers in Dubai were hit by Iranian attacks, the mainstream press and Dubai influencers are useless, but there are data center status sites that have solid info. If you want to know what's getting through the Strait of Hormuz, the info from politicians is useless, but there are shipping sites that name ships and keep stats. If you want to know where GPS is being jammed, there's a tracker site run for aircraft dispatchers. If you want to know what's going on with "return to office", there are commercial real estate sites that have a good idea, including one that gets data from office building entry systems. Hence looking at Beef Magazine for info about beef. No, I'm not going to post links. Do your own work. Or get an LLM to do it for you.
      - rsynnott 1mo ago
        Not to be confused with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_and_Dairy_Network_Podcast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_and_Dairy_Network_Podcast
dlcarrier 1mo ago
To put it in another context, it's half of the maximum payload of a refrigerated shipping container.

That's only about 50 cows. This isn't a big recall. Total slaughter of cows in Texas is about 1.8 million head per year.

by Animats 1mo ago

That's only about 50 cows. This isn't a big recall. Total slaughter of cows in Texas is about 1.8 million head per year.

cosmicgadget 1mo ago

You can get 30k pounds of beef from 50 cows?

abstractbeliefs 1mo ago
30,000 split 50 ways is 800lbs per cow (270kg), seems not unrealistic. Even if you halve the yield to 400lbs then it's only 100 cows
- sehansen 1mo ago
  800 lbs is 360 kg, but I think you meant 600 lbs per cow. Still seems realistic.
blooalien 1mo ago
> You can get 30k pounds of beef from 50 cows? This article [1] says you get about 500-ish pounds of beef from one cow, so 25,000-ish pounds from 50 cows? They weren't massively far off the mark there. [1]: https://cattledaily.com/how-much-meat-do-you-get-from-one-cow/ https://cattledaily.com/how-much-meat-do-you-get-from-one-co...
- Animats 1mo ago
  About 500 pounds of "take home packaged beef". At the import level it's usually "hanging weight" of a beef carcass before butchering, about 700 pounds. In this case, according to Beef Magazine [1], there had been some preliminary butchering at the sending end , with the take home packages to be made up at the local supermarket, which would result in some midrange weight per cow. More to the point, Beef Magazine reports this as an ordinary inspection failure event. It's a recall because, for some reason, the beef didn't go through USDA incoming inspection, and this wasn't discovered until three months later, long after the beef had been sold, and probably consumed. That's a failure of Customs and Border Protection, which is supposed to make sure that doesn't happen. Beef Magazine says that's an automatic trigger for a Class I recall. It's not a political decision. Unlike the CBS article, the Beef Magazine article names the shipper and gives the lot numbers of the recalled beef. The Beef Magazine author has a degree in agricultural production, teaches Animal and Range Science at Montana State University, and worked their way up from cattle ranch foreman to director of Montana’s Beef Quality Assurance program. He probably knows something about beef. The CBS author has a degree in Law and Public Policy and has given a TED talk. His LinkedIn profile says he is "one of America's leading food safety advocates." I'd go with what Beef Magazine says here. [1] https://www.beefmagazine.com/market-news/argentine-beef-recalled https://www.beefmagazine.com/market-news/argentine-beef-reca...
  - blooalien 1mo ago
    > About 500 pounds of "take home packaged beef". At the import level it's usually "hanging weight" of a beef carcass before butchering, about 700 pounds. I'm fine with "about 700 pounds", but that's still not too far off from the 30k pounds the original comment stated for around 50 cows (just over a bit instead of under a bit), so it still holds true that their guesstimate isn't all that far off-base.
  - mysterydip 1mo ago
    “According to Beef Magazine” wasn’t a phrase I expected to read today, but I’m delighted to add it to my lexicon
    - glitchbot 1mo ago
      !
      - Animats 1mo ago
        Specialty sources, the ones people in the affected industry read, tend to be reasonably accurate, because their readership knows the subject and will notice errors. If you want to know which data centers in Dubai were hit by Iranian attacks, the mainstream press and Dubai influencers are useless, but there are data center status sites that have solid info. If you want to know what's getting through the Strait of Hormuz, the info from politicians is useless, but there are shipping sites that name ships and keep stats. If you want to know where GPS is being jammed, there's a tracker site run for aircraft dispatchers. If you want to know what's going on with "return to office", there are commercial real estate sites that have a good idea, including one that gets data from office building entry systems. Hence looking at Beef Magazine for info about beef. No, I'm not going to post links. Do your own work. Or get an LLM to do it for you.
    - rsynnott 1mo ago
      Not to be confused with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_and_Dairy_Network_Podcast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_and_Dairy_Network_Podcast

dlcarrier 1mo ago

To put it in another context, it's half of the maximum payload of a refrigerated shipping container.