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> Thinking of RSS and blogrolls as a network feels much more resilient than blueskys Jetstream api endpoint. Nothing to do with Bluesky services. There are man

> Thinking of RSS and blogrolls as a network feels much more resilient than blueskys Jetstream api endpoint. Nothing to do with Bluesky services. There are many independent firehoses and relays. Here's a stream of standard.site blog posts coming in over a firehose hosted in Chennai. Every single one. No curator between me and the posts, and no work by me to crawl the whole network for them. https://pdsls.dev/jetstream?instance=wss%3A%2F%2Fchennai.firehose.stream%2Ftap&collections=site.standard.document https://pdsls.dev/jetstream?instance=wss%3A%2F%2Fchennai.fir... Edit: ok there is an aggregator, the relay is scraping all of the PDSs out there to build the event stream. Notably this is not possible with RSS, where you need to build a large index with knowledge. PDSs request relays to crawl and that's that.

8organicbits 1mo ago
> Here's a stream of standard.site blog posts coming in over a firehose hosted in Chennai. Every single one. This stream lacks any blog posts that haven't been specifically published to atproto. Conversely, I see RSS feeds for the content in the stream, like https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:byf7jvh3yvhffackiumpddtf/rss https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:byf7jvh3yvhffackiumpddtf/rs... (if RSS feeds exists for every profiles then I'd argue that atproto is a strict subset of RSS, but I'm not certain how that feature works). The stream may give you every blog post that was published to atproto, but that's already a small subset of long-form content on the web. > Notably this is not possible with RSS, The web supports blog discovery so well that people forget it exists. A simple Google search can find a very large amount of content, much available over RSS/Atom. Many web-based feed readers index the subscriptions across all their users to help with discovery. Here's the Feedland firehose, for example: https://feedland.com/?everything=true https://feedland.com/?everything=true I don't think its helpful to argue how complete the Google index is vs a bluesky firehose though. Most users are drowning in content and discovery is about search and filtering. There's lots of interest right now in vouching for the content of others: https://susam.net/wander/wander.js https://susam.net/wander/wander.js, https://codeberg.org/robida/human.json https://codeberg.org/robida/human.json, https://www.manton.org/2024/03/11/recommendations-and-blogrolls.html https://www.manton.org/2024/03/11/recommendations-and-blogro..., etc.

8organicbits 1mo ago

> Here's a stream of standard.site blog posts coming in over a firehose hosted in Chennai. Every single one. This stream lacks any blog posts that haven't been specifically published to atproto. Conversely, I see RSS feeds for the content in the stream, like https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:byf7jvh3yvhffackiumpddtf/rss https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:byf7jvh3yvhffackiumpddtf/rs... (if RSS feeds exists for every profiles then I'd argue that atproto is a strict subset of RSS, but I'm not certain how that feature works). The stream may give you every blog post that was published to atproto, but that's already a small subset of long-form content on the web. > Notably this is not possible with RSS, The web supports blog discovery so well that people forget it exists. A simple Google search can find a very large amount of content, much available over RSS/Atom. Many web-based feed readers index the subscriptions across all their users to help with discovery. Here's the Feedland firehose, for example: https://feedland.com/?everything=true https://feedland.com/?everything=true I don't think its helpful to argue how complete the Google index is vs a bluesky firehose though. Most users are drowning in content and discovery is about search and filtering. There's lots of interest right now in vouching for the content of others: https://susam.net/wander/wander.js https://susam.net/wander/wander.js, https://codeberg.org/robida/human.json https://codeberg.org/robida/human.json, https://www.manton.org/2024/03/11/recommendations-and-blogrolls.html https://www.manton.org/2024/03/11/recommendations-and-blogro..., etc.