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Yeah thats called xenophobia. It be valid point if you cound point to a set of traditions and beliefs that defines what American culture is, but modern America

Yeah thats called xenophobia. It be valid point if you cound point to a set of traditions and beliefs that defines what American culture is, but modern American culture is literally an average over contributions from different cultures due to all the historic immigration.

eudamoniac 1mo ago
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- bruce511 1mo ago
  He's not saying the US doesn't have a culture. He's saying the US is large and diverse and has multiple cultures. Thus trying to define "American culture" is difficult. The point is valid, but perhaps not relevant. Broadly, yes, Americans are easy to spot abroad. Attitude, behavior etc are all part of culture. Yes, an American from NY and one from Alabama will have massive differences, but culture (anywhere) doesn't mean that people are all the same. Deep down, if you substitute "culture" for "race" in most (not all) conversations you get a much closer understanding of the real problem. For example the first lady is an immigrant, but clearly the right kind.
  - ActorNightly 1mo ago
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  - tomhow 1mo ago
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    - ActorNightly 1mo ago
      Im sorry, but if you think that someone being effectively racist in a nice way is somehow better than being up front and calling them out for their belief, you are beyond lost. People like you deserve Trump. Youll ride your high horse of morality of being nice to everyone straight to your grave.
      - tomhow 1mo ago
        Please spare us the sermonizing and personal vitriol, thanks. I posted the same reply to the other commenter. My role here is to uphold the guidelines, not to adjudicate on the relative merits of arguments in a fundamentally toxic debate. This place only continues to exist because we have guidelines and uphold them daily, and because enough other people bother to be respectful in the way they participate here. If you’re not able to make your points without personal attacks, this is not the place for you.
        ActorNightly 1mo ago
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        tomhow 1mo ago
        I’m as concerned about economic collapse as anyone. We’re not so delusional as to think we can fix the hardest problems in the world by writing assholish comments to each other on what is a nerd message board. This is a site for people who build things, and for people who are are interested in discussing new approaches to difficult problems. It’s not for clobbering each other over the head with ideas that people have been clobbering each other over the head with for decades. Stop trashing the guidelines and our efforts to uphold them; they are the entire reason this continues to be a place where people come to discuss difficult topics after nearly two decades. Please go somewhere else if this is the best you have to offer. This is a place for people who have high standards of themselves.
- tomhow 1mo ago
  Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

eudamoniac 1mo ago

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bruce511 1mo ago
He's not saying the US doesn't have a culture. He's saying the US is large and diverse and has multiple cultures. Thus trying to define "American culture" is difficult. The point is valid, but perhaps not relevant. Broadly, yes, Americans are easy to spot abroad. Attitude, behavior etc are all part of culture. Yes, an American from NY and one from Alabama will have massive differences, but culture (anywhere) doesn't mean that people are all the same. Deep down, if you substitute "culture" for "race" in most (not all) conversations you get a much closer understanding of the real problem. For example the first lady is an immigrant, but clearly the right kind.
- ActorNightly 1mo ago
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- tomhow 1mo ago
  Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - ActorNightly 1mo ago
    Im sorry, but if you think that someone being effectively racist in a nice way is somehow better than being up front and calling them out for their belief, you are beyond lost. People like you deserve Trump. Youll ride your high horse of morality of being nice to everyone straight to your grave.
    - tomhow 1mo ago
      Please spare us the sermonizing and personal vitriol, thanks. I posted the same reply to the other commenter. My role here is to uphold the guidelines, not to adjudicate on the relative merits of arguments in a fundamentally toxic debate. This place only continues to exist because we have guidelines and uphold them daily, and because enough other people bother to be respectful in the way they participate here. If you’re not able to make your points without personal attacks, this is not the place for you.
      - ActorNightly 1mo ago
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        tomhow 1mo ago
        I’m as concerned about economic collapse as anyone. We’re not so delusional as to think we can fix the hardest problems in the world by writing assholish comments to each other on what is a nerd message board. This is a site for people who build things, and for people who are are interested in discussing new approaches to difficult problems. It’s not for clobbering each other over the head with ideas that people have been clobbering each other over the head with for decades. Stop trashing the guidelines and our efforts to uphold them; they are the entire reason this continues to be a place where people come to discuss difficult topics after nearly two decades. Please go somewhere else if this is the best you have to offer. This is a place for people who have high standards of themselves.
tomhow 1mo ago
Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html