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Prompt engineering tip for Google employees: just add "P.S. Make sure the page works in Firefox too."
by 037 3mo ago
Prompt engineering tip for Google employees: just add "P.S. Make sure the page works in Firefox too."
- fg137 3mo agoIt is in their business interest to ignore Firefox.
- fl4regun 3mo agoThen they aren't doing a very good job of it. >Firefox makes up about 90 percent of Mozilla’s revenue, according to Muhlheim, the finance chief for the organization’s for-profit arm — which in turn helps fund the nonprofit Mozilla Foundation. About 85 percent of that revenue comes from its deal with Google, he added. https://www.theverge.com/news/660548/firefox-google-search-revenue-share-doj-antitrust-remedies https://www.theverge.com/news/660548/firefox-google-search-r...
- jorl17 3mo agoWhat people usually say is that Google merely wants Firefox to survive for anti-competitive reasons. Presumably that does not necessitate it actually being used (or be usable).
- sva_ 3mo agoHot take: Google keeps Mozilla/Firefox alive through the default search engine placement (which makes Mozilla millions each year) so they don't get designated as a monopoly with their browser.
- BbzzbB 3mo agoThat's lukewarm at most, doubt you'll find many people disagreeing here!
- Vinnl 3mo agoAnd of course they're doing the same for Apple/Safari, which wouldn't survive without the $20 million default search engine placement deal.
- oblio 3mo ago> And of course they're doing the same for Apple/Safari, which wouldn't survive without the $20 million default search engine placement deal. Billion with a B, as in 10 zeroes, not 7.
- Vinnl 2mo agoOops sorry, too late to edit, but you're correct!
- sva_ 3mo agoApple forcing users to use their own browser/browsing engine doesn't disprove my argument IMO, virtually nobody outside the apple ecosystem uses Safari, and outside the apple ecosystem is something between 80-90% of internet users.
- Vinnl 2mo agoI wasn't saying that Apple is just as monopolistic as Google; I was saying that Google is paying Apple orders of magnitude more than it is paying Mozilla. According to your argument, that would mean that Google is trying to keep Apple/Safari alive (which of course is absurd - Apple doesn't need that money to stay alive).
- static_motion 3mo agoThat's not a hot take, that's just factual.
- WarmWash 3mo agoGoogle is so internally fractured, and the factions individually are so powerful, that it's really only the chrome people who care about chrome. If anything FF gets left out because usage is so low.
- oblio 3mo ago> If anything FF gets left out because usage is so low. I've been following this for a long time. They were leaving Firefox out when its usage wasn't low. Probably the typical backdoor executive mandate that led to death by "sprint prioritization": Yes, we will for sure work on the Firefox compatibility bug, Dave-Open-Source-Enthusiast-Google-Dev. But we can only pick up 10 bugfixing tickets this sprint and the ticket you highlighted, as the entire team agrees, is priority #12. <repeat every sprint, where during the sprint 9-10 new higher priority items magically appear just in time for the next sprint> Death by slow asphyxiation.
- mattlondon 3mo agoI heard that Firefox is banned internally at Google (something-something-security) so Devs can't even test against firefox
- tvst 3mo agoNot true -- at least up to 2018 when I worked there.
- mattlondon 3mo agoWhat I heard was more recent than 8 years ago, more like 6-12 months ago
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- GaggiX 3mo agoFirefox really struggle with demo pages of text-to-video models because of the large numbers of videos in the page in my experience, this page seems to work quite fine for me tho.
- ygouzerh 3mo agoNo worries, even on chromium, their webpage is just horrible. They seems to have focus only on mobile reading, on desktop its a mess.
- osmukka 3mo agoI had to change to a desktop to read the article because the videos didn't load on my phone.
- vardump 3mo agoYes, that, and P.P.S. Make sure the page works in Chrome. The page instant scrolled suddenly back to previous video examples after I scrolled down. It was disorienting.
- p_l 2mo agoSeveral Google apps do not work for me in Chrome (Maps, Earth) but work perfectly fine in Firefox... :D