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> Trump is completely torching his term for Israel. That is utter bullshit and you know it. The US government has always been deathly afraid of anything left

> Trump is completely torching his term for Israel. That is utter bullshit and you know it. The US government has always been deathly afraid of anything left of what would be "conservative social democrats" in Europe - remember McCarthyism? The US certainly does not need Israel to tell it to hunt down leftists. > Then you'll get your comments removed from this website if you mention the term "ZOG". Because it's a ridiculous antisemitic conspiracy myth.

bsian 1mo ago
The link makes it clear (at least to me) that they are looking for Palestine supporters and not leftists in general.
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mcmcmc 1mo ago
The disaster of the Iran war will be the legacy of Trump 2. A war that started because Netanyahu convinced Trump there was an imminent attack and fed us false intel on nuclear capabilities. That sounds like torching it to me. ZOG as a conspiracy is nuts but you can’t deny the influence AIPAC has on Congress. Zionists have a very powerful lobby. Then you have guys like Fetterman who are making Israel their core issue.
SimianSci 1mo ago
> Because it's a ridiculous antisemitic conspiracy myth. This perceived overlap of antisemitism and anti-zionism has been shown many times to be a false equivalence. It does nobody any good to conflate Zionism which is a very real fascist Israeli supremacy movement, with Semitism which refers to Jewishness regardless of culture or country. As with many Fascist movements it is very much in the interest of those who follow the a Supremacy movement to conflate opposition of their movement with persecution of their culture.
- mschuster91 1mo ago
  > It does nobody any good to conflate Zionism which is a very real fascist Israeli supremacy movement, with Semitism which refers to Jewishness regardless of culture or country. No. Zionism at its core is just the opinion that there needs to be a state of Israel, to serve as a "last safe haven" for all Jews in the world.
  - inigyou 1mo ago
    And what is "a state of Israel"? Obviously it needs to meet some criteria to count as a state of Israel. If I bought a farm and called it Israel it wouldn't meet the criteria. Some of those criteria are that it must include Jerusalem, and it must be a Jewish ethnostate.
    - throw398633 1mo ago
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      - inigyou 1mo ago
        This is the account's only comment. Political throwaways are not allowed on HN.

bsian 1mo ago

The link makes it clear (at least to me) that they are looking for Palestine supporters and not leftists in general.

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mcmcmc 1mo ago

The disaster of the Iran war will be the legacy of Trump 2. A war that started because Netanyahu convinced Trump there was an imminent attack and fed us false intel on nuclear capabilities. That sounds like torching it to me. ZOG as a conspiracy is nuts but you can’t deny the influence AIPAC has on Congress. Zionists have a very powerful lobby. Then you have guys like Fetterman who are making Israel their core issue.

SimianSci 1mo ago

> Because it's a ridiculous antisemitic conspiracy myth. This perceived overlap of antisemitism and anti-zionism has been shown many times to be a false equivalence. It does nobody any good to conflate Zionism which is a very real fascist Israeli supremacy movement, with Semitism which refers to Jewishness regardless of culture or country. As with many Fascist movements it is very much in the interest of those who follow the a Supremacy movement to conflate opposition of their movement with persecution of their culture.

mschuster91 1mo ago
> It does nobody any good to conflate Zionism which is a very real fascist Israeli supremacy movement, with Semitism which refers to Jewishness regardless of culture or country. No. Zionism at its core is just the opinion that there needs to be a state of Israel, to serve as a "last safe haven" for all Jews in the world.
- inigyou 1mo ago
  And what is "a state of Israel"? Obviously it needs to meet some criteria to count as a state of Israel. If I bought a farm and called it Israel it wouldn't meet the criteria. Some of those criteria are that it must include Jerusalem, and it must be a Jewish ethnostate.
  - throw398633 1mo ago
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    - inigyou 1mo ago
      This is the account's only comment. Political throwaways are not allowed on HN.