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Reddit is worse imo just because of how the site is structured and the power of mods.

by phoghed 2mo ago

philipallstar 2mo ago
Yes - community notes were a surprisingly decent alternative to more gameable authority structures.
- jandrese 2mo ago
  Community notes tend to be a day late and a dollar short though.
  - philipallstar 2mo ago
    But still the best solution so far.
angoragoats 2mo ago
Option A: You occasionally encounter power tripping mods on a site where you are free to create your own community and become the mod yourself. Option B: a power tripping drug-addled Nazi billionaire owns the entire site and can change the site behavior for every user on a whim, with no recourse. This doesn’t seem like a hard choice to make.
- phoghed 2mo ago
  An echo chamber isn’t inherently bad, and moderation is required to maintain any semblance of a well functioning online community. Reddit can be good if you stay in your niche and off the default subs. Twitter is good if you similarly curate your experience and don’t let it push you into garbage. I don’t use either much anymore.
  - angoragoats 2mo ago
    > Twitter is good if you similarly curate your experience and don’t let it push you into garbage. I want to follow the guy who tracked Elon's jet and documented its fuel usage and CO2 emissions. Oops, can't make that part of my "curated experience" on Twitter. So much for free speech absolutism. The point is that when you're subject to the whims of an irrational asshole, you can't have any assurance that your curated experience will stay consistent. For this reason alone, Twitter is worse than Reddit. But I don't use either site anymore at all.
- dist-epoch 2mo ago
  > a power tripping drug-addled Nazi billionaire Are you anti-drugs? Do you think drug users are bad people or using drugs is condemnable? I'm asking because anti-fascists are typically pro-drugs. So I'm confused.
  - vintermann 2mo ago
    Were you on drugs when you wrote that post? You don't think drug users are bad people, so surely that's just a neutral question... Or maybe there are times where drug use can still be a problem, whether it makes people bad people or not. Don't drink and drive. Don't do drugs and buy media companies.
    - dist-epoch 2mo ago
      I don't see any qualification on parent post, only saying Musk is bad because he's using drugs. But you are right, so you agree that frequent drug users should not be offered jobs with responsibilities because for example they might drug and drive.
      - angoragoats 2mo ago
        > only saying Musk is bad because he's using drugs I never said any such thing. Please don’t misrepresent my words.
  - angoragoats 2mo ago
    > Are you anti-drugs? No. > Do you think drug users are bad people No, no one is a bad person only because they use drugs. > or using drugs is condemnable As a general statement, no. But my answer is yes, your actions are condemnable, if you decide to let drugs affect your mental state in any way as you’re making important decisions that affect other people. For example, if you’re making safety decisions for a vehicle that’s being manufactured. Or if you are making pretty much any decision at all for a company that you run which makes medical devices that are implanted in people's bodies. Or if you’re deciding to gut a government program that is responsible for feeding or medicating thousands of people (meaning that your decisions can directly lead to thousands of deaths). Do you think an emotionally inept billionare Nazi with a drug problem should have been in charge of deciding whether poor people from other countries (who are often non-white) continue to receive life-saving aid? Do you think if that person makes the decision to cut that aid, killing those people, it's appropriate for him to brag about it publicly using the term "wood chipper" as a metaphor?
vintermann 2mo ago
Reddit voted itself out of my attention by requiring login for old.reddit.com browsing.
- D-Machine 2mo ago
  You can work around this (for now) with the Firefox Old Reddit Redirect extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/old-reddit-redirect/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re.... Not that you're missing much...
- Itoldmyselfso 2mo ago
  Redlib provides an even better experience than old.reddit.com, while also being truly private.
Yizahi 2mo ago
Default Reddit mainpage is strictly what you subscribe to. And from a tech point of view, Reddit has old. CSS, it has tree style comments with sorting and collapsing, it has no dumb character limits, and on big screens it properly fills the screen with content instead of dumb emptiness or fluff or just infogarbage (do people remember that hashtags are literally just a useless character dumps, born out of the limitations of the SMS tech). So no, Reddit is not worse than Xitter both on social and tech merit.
- phoghed 2mo ago
  In terms of echo chamber, which is what I was responding to, it’s absolutely worse. You may has well have replied that, in fact, its color scheme is more red than Twitter.

Reddit is worse imo just because of how the site is structured and the power of mods.

by phoghed 2mo ago

Reddit is worse imo just because of how the site is structured and the power of mods.

philipallstar 2mo ago

Yes - community notes were a surprisingly decent alternative to more gameable authority structures.

jandrese 2mo ago
Community notes tend to be a day late and a dollar short though.
- philipallstar 2mo ago
  But still the best solution so far.

angoragoats 2mo ago

Option A: You occasionally encounter power tripping mods on a site where you are free to create your own community and become the mod yourself. Option B: a power tripping drug-addled Nazi billionaire owns the entire site and can change the site behavior for every user on a whim, with no recourse. This doesn’t seem like a hard choice to make.

phoghed 2mo ago
An echo chamber isn’t inherently bad, and moderation is required to maintain any semblance of a well functioning online community. Reddit can be good if you stay in your niche and off the default subs. Twitter is good if you similarly curate your experience and don’t let it push you into garbage. I don’t use either much anymore.
- angoragoats 2mo ago
  > Twitter is good if you similarly curate your experience and don’t let it push you into garbage. I want to follow the guy who tracked Elon's jet and documented its fuel usage and CO2 emissions. Oops, can't make that part of my "curated experience" on Twitter. So much for free speech absolutism. The point is that when you're subject to the whims of an irrational asshole, you can't have any assurance that your curated experience will stay consistent. For this reason alone, Twitter is worse than Reddit. But I don't use either site anymore at all.
dist-epoch 2mo ago
> a power tripping drug-addled Nazi billionaire Are you anti-drugs? Do you think drug users are bad people or using drugs is condemnable? I'm asking because anti-fascists are typically pro-drugs. So I'm confused.
- vintermann 2mo ago
  Were you on drugs when you wrote that post? You don't think drug users are bad people, so surely that's just a neutral question... Or maybe there are times where drug use can still be a problem, whether it makes people bad people or not. Don't drink and drive. Don't do drugs and buy media companies.
  - dist-epoch 2mo ago
    I don't see any qualification on parent post, only saying Musk is bad because he's using drugs. But you are right, so you agree that frequent drug users should not be offered jobs with responsibilities because for example they might drug and drive.
    - angoragoats 2mo ago
      > only saying Musk is bad because he's using drugs I never said any such thing. Please don’t misrepresent my words.
- angoragoats 2mo ago
  > Are you anti-drugs? No. > Do you think drug users are bad people No, no one is a bad person only because they use drugs. > or using drugs is condemnable As a general statement, no. But my answer is yes, your actions are condemnable, if you decide to let drugs affect your mental state in any way as you’re making important decisions that affect other people. For example, if you’re making safety decisions for a vehicle that’s being manufactured. Or if you are making pretty much any decision at all for a company that you run which makes medical devices that are implanted in people's bodies. Or if you’re deciding to gut a government program that is responsible for feeding or medicating thousands of people (meaning that your decisions can directly lead to thousands of deaths). Do you think an emotionally inept billionare Nazi with a drug problem should have been in charge of deciding whether poor people from other countries (who are often non-white) continue to receive life-saving aid? Do you think if that person makes the decision to cut that aid, killing those people, it's appropriate for him to brag about it publicly using the term "wood chipper" as a metaphor?

vintermann 2mo ago

Reddit voted itself out of my attention by requiring login for old.reddit.com browsing.

D-Machine 2mo ago
You can work around this (for now) with the Firefox Old Reddit Redirect extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/old-reddit-redirect/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re.... Not that you're missing much...
Itoldmyselfso 2mo ago
Redlib provides an even better experience than old.reddit.com, while also being truly private.

Yizahi 2mo ago

Default Reddit mainpage is strictly what you subscribe to. And from a tech point of view, Reddit has old. CSS, it has tree style comments with sorting and collapsing, it has no dumb character limits, and on big screens it properly fills the screen with content instead of dumb emptiness or fluff or just infogarbage (do people remember that hashtags are literally just a useless character dumps, born out of the limitations of the SMS tech). So no, Reddit is not worse than Xitter both on social and tech merit.

phoghed 2mo ago
In terms of echo chamber, which is what I was responding to, it’s absolutely worse. You may has well have replied that, in fact, its color scheme is more red than Twitter.