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People absolutely do have a problem with legal immigration, especially post-Boriswave. If legal immigration means millions of new people every year and rapid d

People absolutely do have a problem with legal immigration, especially post-Boriswave. If legal immigration means millions of new people every year and rapid demographic change, of course that will cause a political issue. It would be very strange (basically unheard of in human history) if it didn't. People I know who are non-white all report increased racism (mostly not aggressive but noticeable) since Covid, despite having English accents so clearly not being illegal immigrants. That is caused by reckless immigration policy stoking resentment

cycomanic 1mo ago
There are no millions of people every year, stop spreading lies. Net immigration to the UK in 2025 where 170000 people. Decidedly not millions!
- bluefirebrand 1mo ago
  In Canada it has been closer to 500k per year Maybe not millions per year but millions over a very short time Close to a quarter of our population are immigrants right now. It's become a pretty fragmented society imo as a result.
  - brewdad 29d ago
    When was Canada ever a unified society? You have two official languages primarily based on which end of the country you live in.
    - bluefirebrand 27d ago
      Fair enough. Maybe it's just rose colored glasses then, but it certainly feels like we're more divided than ever before
- ifwinterco 1mo ago
  It’s no longer more than a million a year (thanks Kier Starmer, I guess) but there are now at least 15 million people in the UK who aren’t White British, it is absurd to pretend that isn’t a big number. A lot of people ideally want immigration to be negative, so +170k is still going in the wrong direction. There are potential arguments in favour of that level of immigration but you need to convince people that it’s fine for their country to change beyond all recognition in the space of a single generation. And unsurprisingly, the people trying to do that are finding it a tough sell
  - cycomanic 28d ago
    Net immigration was never more than a million (let alone "millions" which was the lie I responded to). It reached a peak of 900 000 in 2023. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06077/ https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06...

cycomanic 1mo ago

There are no millions of people every year, stop spreading lies. Net immigration to the UK in 2025 where 170000 people. Decidedly not millions!

bluefirebrand 1mo ago
In Canada it has been closer to 500k per year Maybe not millions per year but millions over a very short time Close to a quarter of our population are immigrants right now. It's become a pretty fragmented society imo as a result.
- brewdad 29d ago
  When was Canada ever a unified society? You have two official languages primarily based on which end of the country you live in.
  - bluefirebrand 27d ago
    Fair enough. Maybe it's just rose colored glasses then, but it certainly feels like we're more divided than ever before
ifwinterco 1mo ago
It’s no longer more than a million a year (thanks Kier Starmer, I guess) but there are now at least 15 million people in the UK who aren’t White British, it is absurd to pretend that isn’t a big number. A lot of people ideally want immigration to be negative, so +170k is still going in the wrong direction. There are potential arguments in favour of that level of immigration but you need to convince people that it’s fine for their country to change beyond all recognition in the space of a single generation. And unsurprisingly, the people trying to do that are finding it a tough sell
- cycomanic 28d ago
  Net immigration was never more than a million (let alone "millions" which was the lie I responded to). It reached a peak of 900 000 in 2023. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06077/ https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06...