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But it’s still supporting a man who’s a toxic as they come and working hard to distort reality and undermine democracy, you won’t wash that toxic off.
by secretsatan 1mo ago
But it’s still supporting a man who’s a toxic as they come and working hard to distort reality and undermine democracy, you won’t wash that toxic off.
- philipallstar 1mo agoAllowing more voices on the platform might've made it more toxic (who knows - you're not the judge of toxic) but at least we have left- and right-wing toxicity, instead of only left-wing. And we get a lot of additional non-toxic voices, which was the actual point.
- angoragoats 1mo ago[dead]
- secretsatan 1mo agoYou think there wasn’t right wing toxicity before?
- philipallstar 1mo agoAgain, there's no point using a word like "toxicity".
- ImPostingOnHN 1mo ago> Allowing more voices on the platform might've made it more toxic (who knows - you're not the judge of toxic) Allowing the nazi voices definitely did. And while that dude isn't the judge of what is toxic, a majority of people are. I don't know what you personally want to call it when someone posts condolences about a tragedy or massacre killing many people in their home country, and the nazis pop up to reply "you're next, [racial slur omitted]". Pretty sure most people would call that toxic, so it's toxic, even if a small minority of people disagree.
- nxor5 1mo agoAbdul Ballout drove a car into CSD-goers in Berlin on 25.7. Were affected parties able to discuss better on Twitter or Bluesky? As philipallstar wrote, in a chamber of only left-wing voices, the discussion is not better.
- ImPostingOnHN 1mo agoMaybe, maybe not. I don't use BlueSky, are there often people there threatening racially-based killings, with the reporters getting banned? That is the worst for sure. Seems like a tangent either way: letting violent right-wing nazis do violent right-wing nazi things on twitter has definitely made it worse and more toxic than not letting violent right-wing nazis do violent right-wing nazi things on twitter. Indeed, death threats are worse than whatever censorship one claims happened on twitter pre-elmu, because free speech is predicated upon appropriately responding to death threats. Otherwise, speech can be censored with violence, and on twitter, it is now (along with elmu and friends censoring accounts they don't like by banning them).
- nxor5 1mo agoI bring up an Islamist attack in Berlin and you respond with right-wing nazi violence this that. We won't see eye to eye. "They don't call you a Nazi because you are one, they call you a Nazi to silence you."
- ImPostingOnHN 1mo agoWe were discussing right-wing death threats on X, and you tried to distract by bringing up something else, somewhere else. You are free to continue condoning nazi death threats towards minorities on twitter since elmu started allowing it, but it has nonetheless made twitter worse and more toxic. Whatever you personally think about whatever drama on whatever other social network is irrelevant to that.
- nxor5 1mo ago