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Switched to Wero and haven't looked back. https://wero-wallet.eu https://wero-wallet.eu

by aabdelhafez 1mo ago

oniony 1mo ago
The website is pages and pages of blankness for me on Firefox mobile.
unpopularopp 1mo ago
Unfortunately peasants like us who don't live in the 5 countries where it's available still can't look back
- Carbon1603 1mo ago
  I live where it's available and still can't use it to pay stuff, only to transfer money to friends.
therealmarv 1mo ago
wait for it... I can see a future were every wallet, payment etc. app will block devices which are on custom ROMs and do not pass strong hardware integrity with blessing from Google. I've read once that there are paid app testing labs which test if an app has root and custom ROM detection and when they don't have that it's a minus point on the report.
muvlon 1mo ago
You need to use your bank's app for Wero, and many EU banks' apps refuse to run on GrapheneOS for the same reasons as PayPal. This is sadly not a clear win for Wero.
savwolf 1mo ago
Does this work in the UK?
- doublerabbit 1mo ago
  No. We left the EU, so we don't get such fun.
  - jeroenhd 1mo ago
    Wero also isn't implemented EU-wide either, so it's still possible as long as the banks play ball. UK politics has been quite isolationist, though, so I doubt the banks will see much in interoperating with the rest of Europe.
sunaookami 1mo ago
Wero is not a PayPal alternative. It doesn't even have buyer's protection and every bank must manually implement it which immediately makes it a failure. Some banks also connect it to your phone number so you can't link Wero to two different bank accounts with the same number when you have 2 bank accounts. Very messy.
- master-lincoln 1mo ago
  > Some banks also connect it to your phone number What do you mean "some banks"? I thought the whole value proposition of Wero was instant bank transfers with SEPA but using phone numbers?
  - jeroenhd 1mo ago
    Wero is a payment provider technology, a money wallet, and a bank account integration technology under one single marketing name. On the payment provider technology side, you're right, but the wallet feature uses phone numbers (and I think email addresses) so you can send each other money without sharing your IBAN (which is slightly longer and probably not in your contacts).
    - Aachen 1mo ago
      FYI this comment was dead, not flagged. I wonder if you're hellbanned or if it was a keyword trigger
  - sunaookami 1mo ago
    ...why would I give my phone number to random people to pay them? I'd rather use an email address or user name. And using phone numbers means making it easier for normal people which means uploading the whole address book to the bank... just no.
    - Aachen 1mo ago
      I'd rather give the bank account number to people that need to send money there. Why bother with email address?
Carbon1603 1mo ago
Sadly, not even close. I would even dare to say that Klarna is closer to what PayPal is, than Wero.

Switched to Wero and haven't looked back. https://wero-wallet.eu https://wero-wallet.eu

oniony 1mo ago

The website is pages and pages of blankness for me on Firefox mobile.

unpopularopp 1mo ago

Unfortunately peasants like us who don't live in the 5 countries where it's available still can't look back

Carbon1603 1mo ago
I live where it's available and still can't use it to pay stuff, only to transfer money to friends.

therealmarv 1mo ago

wait for it... I can see a future were every wallet, payment etc. app will block devices which are on custom ROMs and do not pass strong hardware integrity with blessing from Google. I've read once that there are paid app testing labs which test if an app has root and custom ROM detection and when they don't have that it's a minus point on the report.

muvlon 1mo ago

You need to use your bank's app for Wero, and many EU banks' apps refuse to run on GrapheneOS for the same reasons as PayPal. This is sadly not a clear win for Wero.

savwolf 1mo ago

Does this work in the UK?

doublerabbit 1mo ago
No. We left the EU, so we don't get such fun.
- jeroenhd 1mo ago
  Wero also isn't implemented EU-wide either, so it's still possible as long as the banks play ball. UK politics has been quite isolationist, though, so I doubt the banks will see much in interoperating with the rest of Europe.

sunaookami 1mo ago

Wero is not a PayPal alternative. It doesn't even have buyer's protection and every bank must manually implement it which immediately makes it a failure. Some banks also connect it to your phone number so you can't link Wero to two different bank accounts with the same number when you have 2 bank accounts. Very messy.

master-lincoln 1mo ago
> Some banks also connect it to your phone number What do you mean "some banks"? I thought the whole value proposition of Wero was instant bank transfers with SEPA but using phone numbers?
- jeroenhd 1mo ago
  Wero is a payment provider technology, a money wallet, and a bank account integration technology under one single marketing name. On the payment provider technology side, you're right, but the wallet feature uses phone numbers (and I think email addresses) so you can send each other money without sharing your IBAN (which is slightly longer and probably not in your contacts).
  - Aachen 1mo ago
    FYI this comment was dead, not flagged. I wonder if you're hellbanned or if it was a keyword trigger
- sunaookami 1mo ago
  ...why would I give my phone number to random people to pay them? I'd rather use an email address or user name. And using phone numbers means making it easier for normal people which means uploading the whole address book to the bank... just no.
  - Aachen 1mo ago
    I'd rather give the bank account number to people that need to send money there. Why bother with email address?

Carbon1603 1mo ago

Sadly, not even close. I would even dare to say that Klarna is closer to what PayPal is, than Wero.