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The role of legal oversight is elsewhere. Engineers are not equipped with the knowledge. Obvious ethical issues are are different, like crimes against humanity
by bonoboTP 2mo ago
The role of legal oversight is elsewhere. Engineers are not equipped with the knowledge.
Obvious ethical issues are are different, like crimes against humanity level. Other than that, it's none of their business. There are institutions for that.
- ryandrake 1mo agoOK, maybe I'll concede the point on legal oversight. But I'd at least expect an engineer to be familiar enough with where the law intersects their work to push back on things obviously illegal. Ethical issues are more likely to be encountered. And they don't even have to be "crimes against humanity" level. I'd expect a professional engineer to strongly push back on and/or refuse things like "write code to cheat a benchmark and make our product look better than it is" and "implement a dark pattern to trick the user into giving us personal information" and "increase our signup funnel by harvesting our users' address books and spamming our app to their contacts."
- bonoboTP 1mo agoIn case of conflict of conscience/taste of that sort, resignation is the proper action and finding a job that better aligns with one's values. If you suspect legal violations, you can also file a police report.
- makeitdouble 1mo ago> resignation is the proper action Why not act according to your conscience and get fired if your employer really feels like it ? Otherwise, in many circumstances a simple "is this legal?" question in a chat or chain of emails that I'll be there in case of discovery will have tremendous effects on whether some dubious thing is done willy nilly.