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Fliggo Lets You Build Your Own YouTube [YC S08]

68 points by RWilson 18y ago

cpach 18y ago
Letting users customize the CSS seems like a great idea. When I used MySpace I really missed the ability to do this without resorting to really flaky hacks.
sachinag 18y ago
Awesome - we've wanted to add user-generated reviews on Dawdle, and video would be really neat. Definitely looking into this.
- fallentimes 18y ago
  Join the party! http://ticketstumbler.fliggo.com/ http://ticketstumbler.fliggo.com/
  - sachinag 18y ago
    You make me wish that Dawdle was in YC just so that we could be a pre-release beta partner for other YC companies. :(
- mcdowall 18y ago
  This is something I am definitely going to look into for my new learning / tutorial site. Saves building our own player or shelling out £26,000 for Brightcove (The quote they gave me!)
jeffesp 18y ago
The business model of "We are going to create X for Y", where X is a service like YouTube, never works. After viewing the intro video I saw that you can do things like create private communities and invite people to join, and I thought that this is the same way I share photos with the family on flickr. But wait, doesn't flickr also support video? And so does Facebook, and I am sure there are others. Maybe I am just misunderstanding their business model, but I don't see the value of this service.
- fallentimes 18y ago
  X for Y is just an easy way of explaining things not a business model. It's straight out of the book Made to Stick.
  - chrysb 18y ago
    Have you been looking at our bookshelf? Don't give away our trade secrets!
- sachinag 18y ago
  Flickr only has "long photos" limited to 90 seconds, and Facebook video isn't public. This is really great for people who want to make video communities around their (existing or new) brand. Facebook was once "Friendster for college kids", too.
- RWilson 18y ago
  flickr is a photo sharing site, that also supports video. Facebook is a social network that supports video. Both are inherently made up of many-to-many personal relations without much direct focus. Neither of those, though, allows you to create a video site dedicated solely to a community of you-to-many. So, first, the ability to upload a video and share it with your friends is not equivalent to running your own video site. The two have different value propositions to you, the user. Secondly, there is a business/blog play that you overlooked. There is a reason TechCrunch didn't build Elevator pitches as a Facebook Group, or on flickr, and it's the same reason we (I'm one of the founders of JamLegend) didn't waste our time using a social network as a video site. The point of the mockup video sites (for Techcrunch Elevator Pitches, VentureBeat, and Mashable), is to show that the video services of all of those businesses could have been built on Fliggo, quickly and easily, and at what I presume to be a reduced cost. The hack solution is wordpress + YouTube, but that's not very elegant, lacks a certain amount of professionalism, and can be difficult to monetize effectively. So, to have a more professional solution before Fliggo, you had to develop your video site in-house, outsource/contract/etc, or use something like Brightcove. Now that there is Fliggo, the process became as easy as point-and-click, while still allowing a full array of customization (as we took full advantage of).
keltecp11 18y ago
I only watched the video... but can you share video weblinks as well? The interface is fantastic, well done.
- arjunlall 18y ago
  If you mean video embeds then yes, each video has a code and can be embedded just like YouTube.
djahng 18y ago
It's always nice to hear updates from Y Combinator "graduates".
anuraggoel 18y ago
I know techcrunch is(are) full of shit and Arrington is on vacation, but their posts aren't even spell-checked anymore? teh, athough, sItes, Wrodpress?
- jakewolf 18y ago
  Something I've been thinking about doing for publishers. http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2008/12/the-editor-dill.html http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2008/12/the-editor-dill.html
- tdavis 18y ago
  Isn't Notepad pretty much the only editor, online or off, that doesn't have automatic spellcheck? This is pretty ridiculous. In any case, congratulations Fliggo! I hope my drunken insults concerning your failure to launch attributed to this climax ;)
- whacked_new 18y ago
  Check this one out: an intriguingly extreme case of redundancy. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/elevator-pitch-friday-duck-duck-go-the-hybrid-search-engine/ http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/elevator-pitch-friday-d...
- thwarted 18y ago
  My favorite techcrunch typo is when the first (or last) few _letters_ of a word are not included in the link-text for an href. Is it really that hard to select the whole word?
- jkincaid 18y ago
  It's pretty sad that the top rated comment on a Y Combinator forum about a Y Combinator site launching is about typos. Get off your high horse. Leave a comment in the post if you see a typo and we'll usually fix it within a few minutes.
  - whacked_new 18y ago
    If anything, it shows an opinion shared by at least a handful of readers, with a fast impression and comparatively high relevance. It is honest opinion, not some high horse. And if anything, said sadness reflects upon TC, and not YC, NH, nor the site in question. This is customer feedback.
mixmax 18y ago
I've been wondering for a while - why doesn't Y-combinator take in more B2B business ideas? It's much easier to capitalise, the market (defined as customers willing to pay you) is huge, and the products out there are crap. Does Y-combinator just not believe in the B2B market, are none of the applications in this area, or what? I'm genuinely puzzled.
- rokhayakebe 18y ago
  This is not mainly YC's fault. Surf around. Every other week, I see a great startup that launches here with a consumer focus. All they needed to do, was focus on businesses and they could make a ton of money. The sad truth is everyone wants to build the next Google. Meanwhile a few guys could copy services such as Scribd and sell the software to lawyers, small banks and clinics. And make a load of money.
  - paul7986 18y ago
    Indeed their is an enterprise like scribd on the market now called vuzit
- pg 18y ago
  We invest in more b2b companies than you realize. You just don't hear about them much because b2b companies are quieter. For example, one of the most successful startups we've funded is Clustrix, but the nature of their business is such that if the general public ever knows their name it will be as a Nasdaq listing.
  - nreece 18y ago
    Isn't Clustrix funded by Sequoia Capital: http://www.sproutsys.com/investors.html http://www.sproutsys.com/investors.html
    - pg 18y ago
      Yes, they're one of 3 YC alumni companies that are.
sam_in_nyc 18y ago
How does one go about getting TechCrunch to cover their product, on launch day?
- emmett 18y ago
  If your product is decent, they'll cover you.
- Tichy 18y ago
  By getting accepted into YC.
whacked_new 18y ago
Somehow I remembered seeing fliggo repeatedly submitted on reddit with content taken from YouTube, and ended up associating it with blogspam. This must have been before it went YC. It looks quite different now, but how close was my impression?
- whacked_new 18y ago
  To whomever is downmodding, your reason please? Basis of my perception: http://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/6cxqc/top_10_jackie_chan_stunts_video/ http://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/6cxqc/top_10_... http://digg.com/celebrity/Top_10_Jackie_Chan_Stunts_3 http://digg.com/celebrity/Top_10_Jackie_Chan_Stunts_3
- rm999 18y ago
  You are right, I don't know why you were modded down.
- fallentimes 18y ago
  content taken from Youtube Stealing from the stealers?
mcdowall 18y ago
Ive spent a fair while scouring the site and yet to find any form of pricing options for hosting on my own domain, the guys definitely need a lot more call to action points. Ill just have to go about it the old fashioned way of emailing the guys there, shame as I would probably liked to read up on the pricing and possibly sign at that point having seen the features.
- danielrhodes 18y ago
  We've got a lot of demand for custom domains, so it has become one of our top priorities Therefore, the answer is soon. If you've got more questions, feel free to email me directly at dan [[at]] fliggo.com.
zer0 18y ago
Should I start hogging up subdomain names?
- almost 18y ago
  no

68 points by RWilson 18y ago

cpach 18y ago

Letting users customize the CSS seems like a great idea. When I used MySpace I really missed the ability to do this without resorting to really flaky hacks.

sachinag 18y ago

Awesome - we've wanted to add user-generated reviews on Dawdle, and video would be really neat. Definitely looking into this.

fallentimes 18y ago
Join the party! http://ticketstumbler.fliggo.com/ http://ticketstumbler.fliggo.com/
- sachinag 18y ago
  You make me wish that Dawdle was in YC just so that we could be a pre-release beta partner for other YC companies. :(
mcdowall 18y ago
This is something I am definitely going to look into for my new learning / tutorial site. Saves building our own player or shelling out £26,000 for Brightcove (The quote they gave me!)

jeffesp 18y ago

The business model of "We are going to create X for Y", where X is a service like YouTube, never works. After viewing the intro video I saw that you can do things like create private communities and invite people to join, and I thought that this is the same way I share photos with the family on flickr. But wait, doesn't flickr also support video? And so does Facebook, and I am sure there are others. Maybe I am just misunderstanding their business model, but I don't see the value of this service.

fallentimes 18y ago
X for Y is just an easy way of explaining things not a business model. It's straight out of the book Made to Stick.
- chrysb 18y ago
  Have you been looking at our bookshelf? Don't give away our trade secrets!
sachinag 18y ago
Flickr only has "long photos" limited to 90 seconds, and Facebook video isn't public. This is really great for people who want to make video communities around their (existing or new) brand. Facebook was once "Friendster for college kids", too.
RWilson 18y ago
flickr is a photo sharing site, that also supports video. Facebook is a social network that supports video. Both are inherently made up of many-to-many personal relations without much direct focus. Neither of those, though, allows you to create a video site dedicated solely to a community of you-to-many. So, first, the ability to upload a video and share it with your friends is not equivalent to running your own video site. The two have different value propositions to you, the user. Secondly, there is a business/blog play that you overlooked. There is a reason TechCrunch didn't build Elevator pitches as a Facebook Group, or on flickr, and it's the same reason we (I'm one of the founders of JamLegend) didn't waste our time using a social network as a video site. The point of the mockup video sites (for Techcrunch Elevator Pitches, VentureBeat, and Mashable), is to show that the video services of all of those businesses could have been built on Fliggo, quickly and easily, and at what I presume to be a reduced cost. The hack solution is wordpress + YouTube, but that's not very elegant, lacks a certain amount of professionalism, and can be difficult to monetize effectively. So, to have a more professional solution before Fliggo, you had to develop your video site in-house, outsource/contract/etc, or use something like Brightcove. Now that there is Fliggo, the process became as easy as point-and-click, while still allowing a full array of customization (as we took full advantage of).

keltecp11 18y ago

I only watched the video... but can you share video weblinks as well? The interface is fantastic, well done.

arjunlall 18y ago
If you mean video embeds then yes, each video has a code and can be embedded just like YouTube.

djahng 18y ago

It's always nice to hear updates from Y Combinator "graduates".

anuraggoel 18y ago

I know techcrunch is(are) full of shit and Arrington is on vacation, but their posts aren't even spell-checked anymore? teh, athough, sItes, Wrodpress?

jakewolf 18y ago
Something I've been thinking about doing for publishers. http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2008/12/the-editor-dill.html http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2008/12/the-editor-dill.html
tdavis 18y ago
Isn't Notepad pretty much the only editor, online or off, that doesn't have automatic spellcheck? This is pretty ridiculous. In any case, congratulations Fliggo! I hope my drunken insults concerning your failure to launch attributed to this climax ;)
whacked_new 18y ago
Check this one out: an intriguingly extreme case of redundancy. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/elevator-pitch-friday-duck-duck-go-the-hybrid-search-engine/ http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/elevator-pitch-friday-d...
thwarted 18y ago
My favorite techcrunch typo is when the first (or last) few _letters_ of a word are not included in the link-text for an href. Is it really that hard to select the whole word?
jkincaid 18y ago
It's pretty sad that the top rated comment on a Y Combinator forum about a Y Combinator site launching is about typos. Get off your high horse. Leave a comment in the post if you see a typo and we'll usually fix it within a few minutes.
- whacked_new 18y ago
  If anything, it shows an opinion shared by at least a handful of readers, with a fast impression and comparatively high relevance. It is honest opinion, not some high horse. And if anything, said sadness reflects upon TC, and not YC, NH, nor the site in question. This is customer feedback.

mixmax 18y ago

I've been wondering for a while - why doesn't Y-combinator take in more B2B business ideas? It's much easier to capitalise, the market (defined as customers willing to pay you) is huge, and the products out there are crap. Does Y-combinator just not believe in the B2B market, are none of the applications in this area, or what? I'm genuinely puzzled.

rokhayakebe 18y ago
This is not mainly YC's fault. Surf around. Every other week, I see a great startup that launches here with a consumer focus. All they needed to do, was focus on businesses and they could make a ton of money. The sad truth is everyone wants to build the next Google. Meanwhile a few guys could copy services such as Scribd and sell the software to lawyers, small banks and clinics. And make a load of money.
- paul7986 18y ago
  Indeed their is an enterprise like scribd on the market now called vuzit
pg 18y ago
We invest in more b2b companies than you realize. You just don't hear about them much because b2b companies are quieter. For example, one of the most successful startups we've funded is Clustrix, but the nature of their business is such that if the general public ever knows their name it will be as a Nasdaq listing.
- nreece 18y ago
  Isn't Clustrix funded by Sequoia Capital: http://www.sproutsys.com/investors.html http://www.sproutsys.com/investors.html
  - pg 18y ago
    Yes, they're one of 3 YC alumni companies that are.

sam_in_nyc 18y ago

How does one go about getting TechCrunch to cover their product, on launch day?

emmett 18y ago
If your product is decent, they'll cover you.
Tichy 18y ago
By getting accepted into YC.

whacked_new 18y ago

Somehow I remembered seeing fliggo repeatedly submitted on reddit with content taken from YouTube, and ended up associating it with blogspam. This must have been before it went YC. It looks quite different now, but how close was my impression?

whacked_new 18y ago
To whomever is downmodding, your reason please? Basis of my perception: http://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/6cxqc/top_10_jackie_chan_stunts_video/ http://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/6cxqc/top_10_... http://digg.com/celebrity/Top_10_Jackie_Chan_Stunts_3 http://digg.com/celebrity/Top_10_Jackie_Chan_Stunts_3
rm999 18y ago
You are right, I don't know why you were modded down.
fallentimes 18y ago
content taken from Youtube Stealing from the stealers?

mcdowall 18y ago

Ive spent a fair while scouring the site and yet to find any form of pricing options for hosting on my own domain, the guys definitely need a lot more call to action points. Ill just have to go about it the old fashioned way of emailing the guys there, shame as I would probably liked to read up on the pricing and possibly sign at that point having seen the features.

danielrhodes 18y ago
We've got a lot of demand for custom domains, so it has become one of our top priorities Therefore, the answer is soon. If you've got more questions, feel free to email me directly at dan [[at]] fliggo.com.

zer0 18y ago

Should I start hogging up subdomain names?

almost 18y ago
no