3 ms·

The same has happened in the UK. It has gone from being a major producer of oil and gas to being heavily dependent on imports. Great for politicians on the glo

by Kognito 1mo ago

The same has happened in the UK. It has gone from being a major producer of oil and gas to being heavily dependent on imports. Great for politicians on the global speaking circuit to opine how they reduced production and brought down local carbon emissions whilst completely ignoring that offshoring industry means the emissions just happen somewhere else (typically a poorer country with lower/no environmental standards). Hardly seems to fit with the “we’re all in this together” argument.

anonreplier 1mo ago
Right wing selling off national assets on the cheap: good Left wing blocking off national assets: bad
bArray 1mo ago
> Hardly seems to fit with the “we’re all in this together” argument. It's a good job we offset all of our manufacturing to the likes of China, it's not like they have terrible environmental standards or share an atmosphere with us or anything. It's also a good job we closed our coking coal rich mines to import it from Japan instead [1]. I'm left in utter disbelief that any of this was allowed or condoned, it is nothing short of madness. The UK now finds itself in a position where it is incapable of doing absolutely anything. [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp311nr7w34o https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp311nr7w34o
matthewmacleod 1mo ago
Well, it's not like the idea of the UK being a "major producer of oil and gas" is a feasible long-term strategy anyway.
ZeroGravitas 1mo ago
> It has gone from being a major producer of oil and gas to being heavily dependent on imports. You seem to be suggesting this happened for reasons other than extracting and selling all the oil and gas that was there, while also stalling on any domestic moves to burn less fuel, leading to the obvious imbalance. Even the oil industry when they show graphs of what they describe as "unrealistic" options which involve massive cuts in taxation are only tiny speed bumps on the way to exhausting the reserves. Meanwhile a single round of wind turbine auctions will save far more gas than that. And be a "green transition".
KineticLensman 1mo ago
> It has gone from being a major producer of oil and gas Given that North sea oil is a finite resource that has already peaked, it cannot form the basis of a long term energy strategy.

by Kognito 1mo ago

anonreplier 1mo ago

Right wing selling off national assets on the cheap: good Left wing blocking off national assets: bad

bArray 1mo ago

> Hardly seems to fit with the “we’re all in this together” argument. It's a good job we offset all of our manufacturing to the likes of China, it's not like they have terrible environmental standards or share an atmosphere with us or anything. It's also a good job we closed our coking coal rich mines to import it from Japan instead [1]. I'm left in utter disbelief that any of this was allowed or condoned, it is nothing short of madness. The UK now finds itself in a position where it is incapable of doing absolutely anything. [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp311nr7w34o https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp311nr7w34o

matthewmacleod 1mo ago

Well, it's not like the idea of the UK being a "major producer of oil and gas" is a feasible long-term strategy anyway.

ZeroGravitas 1mo ago

> It has gone from being a major producer of oil and gas to being heavily dependent on imports. You seem to be suggesting this happened for reasons other than extracting and selling all the oil and gas that was there, while also stalling on any domestic moves to burn less fuel, leading to the obvious imbalance. Even the oil industry when they show graphs of what they describe as "unrealistic" options which involve massive cuts in taxation are only tiny speed bumps on the way to exhausting the reserves. Meanwhile a single round of wind turbine auctions will save far more gas than that. And be a "green transition".

KineticLensman 1mo ago

> It has gone from being a major producer of oil and gas Given that North sea oil is a finite resource that has already peaked, it cannot form the basis of a long term energy strategy.