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A/I mails weren't e2e encrypted.

john_strinlai 1mo ago
not sure if that's relevant. the announcement specifically calls out "encrypted chats and email" and implies that it's a bad thing because it is private
- Saline9515 1mo ago
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  - john_strinlai 1mo ago
    i know you have strong feelings about this, because you have over 10 comments on this submission, but i'm talking about the general rhetoric of the message (as i quoted), not specific to a/i or any left/right politics. the general language used in this announcement is undoubtedly anti-encryption and anti-privacy. it just so happens that this time the rhetorical device is terrorism instead of protecting children.
    - Saline9515 1mo ago
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      - bluealienpie 1mo ago
        Eliminating all rights in the name that one person may be bad seems like a slippery slope especially one filled with anecdotes instead of sources.
        Saline9515 1mo ago
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      - jst1fthsdys 1mo ago
        So, you must support AWS and MS getting sanctioned for supporting the IDF, which has committed many more acts of terror and far worse forms of it. Right?
        Saline9515 1mo ago
        Yes. Especially if the collaboration was done on purpose, not just as a neutral provider (A/I is not one).
        jst1fthsdys 1mo ago
        Well, they never will be. So that reveals the real intention behind this action, like someone else said: elimination of human rights and political persecution. This has nothing to do with terrorism, since the people doing it are happy to be inflicting terror globally.
        ocodo 1mo ago
        Careful now, YC will get added to the terror watch list for being... "statistically lacking in support for dear leader and his current executive actions/~~corruption~~ interests, (subject to change with the wind)"
        Saline9515 1mo ago
        Sanctioning an email provider doesn't have anything to do with human rights, just like breaking the cables of a high speed train because you want your communist utopia to be realized has nothing to do with democracy.
        8note 1mo ago
        as a neutral provider, they should still be punished for providing services to sanctioned entities of course, no limited to revoking their license to be a business invloved in transfering money.
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    - GolfPopper 1mo ago
      When the government decides its going to exercise more control over speech, its a coin-flip whether the excuse will be "preventing terrorism" or "for the children".

not sure if that's relevant. the announcement specifically calls out "encrypted chats and email" and implies that it's a bad thing because it is private

Saline9515 1mo ago
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- john_strinlai 1mo ago
  i know you have strong feelings about this, because you have over 10 comments on this submission, but i'm talking about the general rhetoric of the message (as i quoted), not specific to a/i or any left/right politics. the general language used in this announcement is undoubtedly anti-encryption and anti-privacy. it just so happens that this time the rhetorical device is terrorism instead of protecting children.
  - Saline9515 1mo ago
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    - bluealienpie 1mo ago
      Eliminating all rights in the name that one person may be bad seems like a slippery slope especially one filled with anecdotes instead of sources.
      - Saline9515 1mo ago
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    - jst1fthsdys 1mo ago
      So, you must support AWS and MS getting sanctioned for supporting the IDF, which has committed many more acts of terror and far worse forms of it. Right?
      - Saline9515 1mo ago
        Yes. Especially if the collaboration was done on purpose, not just as a neutral provider (A/I is not one).
        jst1fthsdys 1mo ago
        Well, they never will be. So that reveals the real intention behind this action, like someone else said: elimination of human rights and political persecution. This has nothing to do with terrorism, since the people doing it are happy to be inflicting terror globally.
        ocodo 1mo ago
        Careful now, YC will get added to the terror watch list for being... "statistically lacking in support for dear leader and his current executive actions/~~corruption~~ interests, (subject to change with the wind)"
        Saline9515 1mo ago
        Sanctioning an email provider doesn't have anything to do with human rights, just like breaking the cables of a high speed train because you want your communist utopia to be realized has nothing to do with democracy.
        8note 1mo ago
        as a neutral provider, they should still be punished for providing services to sanctioned entities of course, no limited to revoking their license to be a business invloved in transfering money.
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  - GolfPopper 1mo ago
    When the government decides its going to exercise more control over speech, its a coin-flip whether the excuse will be "preventing terrorism" or "for the children".