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They have that-ish as an option: https://docs.github.com/en/enterprise-cloud@latest/admin/data-residency/about-github-enterprise-cloud-with-data-residency https

by saxonww 1mo ago

They have that-ish as an option: https://docs.github.com/en/enterprise-cloud@latest/admin/data-residency/about-github-enterprise-cloud-with-data-residency https://docs.github.com/en/enterprise-cloud@latest/admin/dat... I'm told that GitHub has asserted to us that moving to this model means we would not be exposed to github.com outages. It's not at feature parity with github.com though.

nr378 1mo ago
Thanks, this option is good to know. We're currently on "GitHub Enterprise Cloud" on github.com and are affected by this outage (even though we use self-hosted runners!), but we're not on "GitHub Enterprise Cloud with data residency" on *.ghe.com, which I understand is/may not be affected by this outage?
- saxonww 1mo ago
  This is what they've told us. It's represented as basically a separate deployment of the entire GHEC stack, so you're not exposed to the load/scaling issues they believe are the underlying cause of all the github.com outages today.
herpdyderp 1mo ago
Do you have any meaningful level of faith in GitHub's ability to deliver on stability? At this point, I have none.
- creshal 1mo ago
  A lot of the stability problems come from trying to scale a free product on a still WIP cloud solution without costing too much; the same software running on separate, paid for infra has a lot better odds.
- saxonww 1mo ago
  Meaningful is subjective, but yes I do. It was very stable for many years, and I do believe the recent issues are mostly or all because they were caught flat-footed by the rapid AI-driven load increases. This has been a bad time, though. I'm ready to move back to self-hosting if they can't get it together or we move to GHDR and it's still bad.
annzabelle 1mo ago
The last large company I worked for switched from self hosted github enterprise to github.com in January 2025 or so. I wonder how much egg is on that exec's face.

by saxonww 1mo ago

nr378 1mo ago

Thanks, this option is good to know. We're currently on "GitHub Enterprise Cloud" on github.com and are affected by this outage (even though we use self-hosted runners!), but we're not on "GitHub Enterprise Cloud with data residency" on *.ghe.com, which I understand is/may not be affected by this outage?

saxonww 1mo ago
This is what they've told us. It's represented as basically a separate deployment of the entire GHEC stack, so you're not exposed to the load/scaling issues they believe are the underlying cause of all the github.com outages today.

herpdyderp 1mo ago

Do you have any meaningful level of faith in GitHub's ability to deliver on stability? At this point, I have none.

creshal 1mo ago
A lot of the stability problems come from trying to scale a free product on a still WIP cloud solution without costing too much; the same software running on separate, paid for infra has a lot better odds.
saxonww 1mo ago
Meaningful is subjective, but yes I do. It was very stable for many years, and I do believe the recent issues are mostly or all because they were caught flat-footed by the rapid AI-driven load increases. This has been a bad time, though. I'm ready to move back to self-hosting if they can't get it together or we move to GHDR and it's still bad.

annzabelle 1mo ago

The last large company I worked for switched from self hosted github enterprise to github.com in January 2025 or so. I wonder how much egg is on that exec's face.