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I get all that. Then alternatives are: - Grok - where I absolutely have 0 trust in X.ai's interst in "pushing humanity forward". - OpenAI and Anthropic - whi
by zaj00l 1mo ago
I get all that.
Then alternatives are:
- Grok - where I absolutely have 0 trust in X.ai's interst in "pushing humanity forward".
- OpenAI and Anthropic - which seem to try to be building the biggest moat they can by pushing to ban open models. And at the same time want to be an Arbiter of what level of intelligence I can use.
- Google and Meta - I don't need to talk about the practices of these companies.
Yes, the terms of service aren't great. But the alternatives aren't great either. I don't believe that a future which OpenAI and Anthropic are pushing for has my best interest in mind.
- bestouff 1mo agoOr Deepseek, Qwen, any other open model hosted by whoever you trust most.
- zuzululu 1mo agoAll the American companies you mentioned still follow American law and regulation. Skirting that blatantly has big consequences. Chinese companies do not follow American laws and there are absolutely no consequences for violating it. Moreover, the average American is not even aware of exactly what the legal/judicial environment is like in China. If your code and data is stolen, you can't fly to China and demand justice in the courts.
- croes 1mo agoAren’t those American companies sued because they didn’t follow American law?
- alexandra_au 1mo agoOpenAI is being sued by Apple, yes
- Implicated 1mo ago> All the American companies you mentioned still follow American law and regulation. Skirting that blatantly has big consequences. > Chinese companies do not follow American laws and there are absolutely no consequences for violating it. ... lmk when anthropic/openai/spacex/xai are held accountable for anything. Anything at all. Hard to be when you're _writing_ the rules.
- twobitshifter 1mo agoIs copyright infringement an American Law?
- jst1fthsdys 1mo ago> All the American companies you mentioned still follow American law and regulation. Skirting that blatantly has big consequences. No, they don’t. This is an absurd statement to make in 2026.
- matheusmoreira 1mo ago> I don't believe that a future which OpenAI and Anthropic are pushing for has my best interest in mind. I don't believe in that either, but these totalitarian terms are absolutely unacceptable.
- well_ackshually 1mo agoIf only you could grab those models and host them literally anywhere else where you wouldn't be subject to those terms. Damn. Maybe we'll have to wait for someone to invent something like open download of model weights.
- matheusmoreira 1mo agoCare to buy me a $10,000-$100,000 computer?
- j_maffe 1mo agoNo but a provider with more amicable terms can.