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it's brave to look at other companies receiving cease and desist notices and treat it as a market opening
by john_strinlai 2mo ago
it's brave to look at other companies receiving cease and desist notices and treat it as a market opening
- thehamkercat 2mo agotwitterwebviewer.com was registered in Hong Kong according to https://www.whois.com/whois/twitterwebviewer.com https://www.whois.com/whois/twitterwebviewer.com Looks fine, they don't care about the notices i guess
- SXX 2mo ago.com domain zone is managed by Verysign US company. They will just C&D them.
- doublepg23 2mo agoI guess my brain has been cooked by internet libertarianism but what's the basis of a C&D for proxying a website? Is the legal basis just copyright of the contents?
- xmprt 2mo agoBigger "guns" diplomacy. They don't need any legal basis for a C&D. Just depends on whether you have enough money to fight it in court.
- john_strinlai 2mo agoi dont know the legal basis used, or the validity. i just know that i wouldnt want to have to spend the time or money fighting twitter over it
- inigyou 2mo agoYou don't have to fight a C&D, you can ignore it. But they may sue you and you have to fight that. But they can also sue you without a C&D or even after you comply with one. The C&D itself has no effect, but it's the equivalent of a gangster pointing at his own eyeballs and then yours, "I'm watching you."
- john_strinlai 2mo agoyou've replied here several times, i understand your position on C&Ds. a C&D is reasonably understood as an intent to sue if you continue whatever they want you to cease. my comment can be read as "i just know that i wouldnt want to have to spend the time or money fighting twitter over it (where "it" = ignoring their C&D and being sued)"
- cindyllm 2mo ago[dead]
- paxys 2mo agoWell yeah the copyright violation is pretty clear cut here.
- itintheory 2mo agoMy understanding is that copyright of what's posted is retained by the poster. The Nitter C&D was around a ToS violation for scraping.
- zerop 2mo agothe maker - https://peterslab.co/products/twitter-web-viewer https://peterslab.co/products/twitter-web-viewer
- inigyou 2mo agoC&D has zero legal weight. They're just relying on developers being conflict-averse. At my local hacker space, at least five members are in some kinds of protracted legal battles (five different ones)