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AFAIK Google is much better at not tearing well-working teams apart in reorgs, and letting people go they have acquihired a few quarters earlier. Of the few ex
by hobofan 2mo ago
AFAIK Google is much better at not tearing well-working teams apart in reorgs, and letting people go they have acquihired a few quarters earlier.
Of the few examples I have I my head, I'd even say that the fate of a product that has been acquired by Google is probably even better than those of Google's internally developed products. e.g. Waze is still alive and kicking 13 years after acquisition under its own brand and hasn't been completely swallowed by Google Maps. The Nest brand also stuck around for quite some time.
- fwip 2mo agoYoutube is another famous example.
- nixon_why69 2mo agoGoogle is better but it's an incredibly low bar. Amazon will drive these people to quit within a couple years over filling out MBRs and threats about how the MBR isn't good enough (MBR = monthly business report, pure bullshit theatre that drives the whole company mad 2/4 weeks every month). Google would drive them to quit over a longer timeframe, with no threats or harrassment, just because every time they try to ship something cool, someone else has a reason not to do it and that kills you eventually.
- hobofan 2mo ago> Google would drive them to quit over a longer timeframe, with no threats or harrassment, just because every time they try to ship something cool, someone else has a reason not to do it and that kills you eventually. Yeah, I've never personally worked at any of those places, but collaborated on a few open source projects with Googlers and Xooglers and the slow grinding wheels of their "processes" that wear people down over time were very apparent. Nevertheless, it has been a breeding ground for many interesting technologies, even if it often suffocates them over the long term.
- SoftTalker 2mo agoThey should be fine as long as they remember to use the new cover sheets. I'm sure they got a copy of the memo.
- NewJazz 2mo agoDon't worry, I'll send them another copy just in case.
- SlightlyLeftPad 2mo agoOoo yeah. Mmk that’d be great.
- darkwater 2mo ago> Amazon will drive these people to quit within a couple years over filling out MBRs and threats about how the MBR isn't good enough (MBR = monthly business report, pure bullshit theatre that drives the whole company mad 2/4 weeks every month). Wouldn't be possible nowadays to LLM your way out of this? Really no idea, just asking.
- nixon_why69 2mo agoI'm actually curious too, haven't been there in a while. It's possible that the MBR pyramid has become LLM assisted on all sides but the cultural themes are surely all still there. Honestly, the whole thing felt LLM to start with, tons of people lacking context and throwing words and summaries around.
- flopsamjetsam 2mo agoLLM to write it, then all the managers just use LLM to summarise it :)
- timcambrant 2mo agoThe next logical step to ensure MBR quality would be to introduce MBR reviews before filing, also done by LLMs of course.
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- darkwater 2mo agoWow, that's ugly (and dumb!) as hell! Is this Amazon?
- tokenscoper 2mo ago> (MBR = monthly business report, pure bullshit theatre that drives the whole company mad 2/4 weeks every month) Couldn't have said it any better myself having worked at AWS for close to 8y. I was there during their peak growth years and remember very well how some of these processes that were once not as maddening, devolved.
- Exoristos 2mo agoWhy don't they hire MBR specialists and embed them? Leave the development groups alone.
- cowsandmilk 2mo agoThey do, they’re TPMs and PMs. If you’re a development team at Amazon stressing over MBRs, you’ve failed to give those people the tools to pull important metrics themselves.
- 999900000999 2mo agoTo be fair, I suspect most of the core team is effectively rich after an acqu-hire. If I had 5 million I’m going to retire and never code for money again. I do want to make small video games though, make some music. Pay for a friend’s kids college. I wouldn’t waste a single extra hour making more money. Usually the golden handcuffs fall off after a year or two. That’s why Heroku went to crap, all the core people left.
- stingraycharles 2mo agoGoogle Maps is also an acquisition from more than 2 decades ago, by the way.