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I'm very far from it but I saw many exchanges in my twitter timeline (because now when you click on a tweet to read it or interact, the algorithm thinks it's yo

I'm very far from it but I saw many exchanges in my twitter timeline (because now when you click on a tweet to read it or interact, the algorithm thinks it's your only interest in life). Do basically, they got 8 millions dollars of funding, they bragged and criticized others in linux and said some political stuff, they were also criticized by others including political stuff from the other side (not sure of the order). Finally it became viral enough for people looking at the security of the distro and found many issues. Personally I like my Linux distro like my coffee: competently managed, with a minimum of drama and with having to hear the less assholes possible.

TiredOfLife 2mo ago
And which distro is like that?
- rbanffy 2mo ago
  What collective human endeavour is devoid of politics? Politics is how groups decide things, from what a code of conduct should be to where we should stop for coffee after lunch. It’s easy to not notice it, but we do politics dozens of times every day.
  - TiredOfLife 2mo ago
    poulpy123 claimed that they use such distro
    - rbanffy 2mo ago
      As any distro is a significant group effort, I would say this is impossible and that they might not have realised how group decisions are made.
busterarm 2mo ago
> Personally I like my Linux distro like my coffee: competently managed, with a minimum of drama and with having to hear the less assholes possible. I've been using Linux since 1993 and at various points every distro under the sun and that perfectly describes exactly zero Linux distributions.
- rpcope1 2mo ago
  I mean, I feel like Debian has come pretty close to that for the last decade or two.
  - busterarm 2mo ago
    That's a reputation it had in the 90s to early 00s and has long since lost. Even in recent years the drama within Debian has been incredibly high. A lot happened in debian-private, despite "We will not hide problems" being part of the project's social contract, and then leaks started happening and all hell broke loose. I didn't even mention the decade-long community censorship campaign yet. Or the Volunteer Day suicide. Or the "Please write a list of 5 Debian Developers you would like to kick out of the project." DPL election question. Or banning Linus from DebConf...
- em-bee 2mo ago
  i doubt you have tried every distribution. at least you haven't tried the one i was part of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foresight_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foresight_Linux a small, but independent distribution (not a spin-off of anything). i can assure you, it was drama and asshole free. (maybe it didn't live long enough to develop drama, that would be a fair counterpoint, but other than that, i reject your statement)
  - busterarm 2mo ago
    Yeah but it was also made to showcase GNOME, which was kind of its own huge drama at that time. I mean I can't even believe you're seriously posting this. It was created intended to be a marketing tool and for something folks had long already made their decision either way about. So yeah, I never used your extremely niche distribution and that's some sort of gotcha on my argument. Weirdly, I've used a ton of niche Linux distros even. Even was an early GoboLinux contributor. If you're a niche distro you don't have the manpower to do anything more than already be downstream of larger communities with their own huge drama. That's kind of the point I'm making. You will not meaningfully find no-drama. This isn't even just a Linux or a FOSS thing -- it's group project dynamics. It's inevitable in any project not run by a benevolent dictator (and even then...).

TiredOfLife 2mo ago

And which distro is like that?

rbanffy 2mo ago
What collective human endeavour is devoid of politics? Politics is how groups decide things, from what a code of conduct should be to where we should stop for coffee after lunch. It’s easy to not notice it, but we do politics dozens of times every day.
- TiredOfLife 2mo ago
  poulpy123 claimed that they use such distro
  - rbanffy 2mo ago
    As any distro is a significant group effort, I would say this is impossible and that they might not have realised how group decisions are made.

busterarm 2mo ago

> Personally I like my Linux distro like my coffee: competently managed, with a minimum of drama and with having to hear the less assholes possible. I've been using Linux since 1993 and at various points every distro under the sun and that perfectly describes exactly zero Linux distributions.

rpcope1 2mo ago
I mean, I feel like Debian has come pretty close to that for the last decade or two.
- busterarm 2mo ago
  That's a reputation it had in the 90s to early 00s and has long since lost. Even in recent years the drama within Debian has been incredibly high. A lot happened in debian-private, despite "We will not hide problems" being part of the project's social contract, and then leaks started happening and all hell broke loose. I didn't even mention the decade-long community censorship campaign yet. Or the Volunteer Day suicide. Or the "Please write a list of 5 Debian Developers you would like to kick out of the project." DPL election question. Or banning Linus from DebConf...
em-bee 2mo ago
i doubt you have tried every distribution. at least you haven't tried the one i was part of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foresight_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foresight_Linux a small, but independent distribution (not a spin-off of anything). i can assure you, it was drama and asshole free. (maybe it didn't live long enough to develop drama, that would be a fair counterpoint, but other than that, i reject your statement)
- busterarm 2mo ago
  Yeah but it was also made to showcase GNOME, which was kind of its own huge drama at that time. I mean I can't even believe you're seriously posting this. It was created intended to be a marketing tool and for something folks had long already made their decision either way about. So yeah, I never used your extremely niche distribution and that's some sort of gotcha on my argument. Weirdly, I've used a ton of niche Linux distros even. Even was an early GoboLinux contributor. If you're a niche distro you don't have the manpower to do anything more than already be downstream of larger communities with their own huge drama. That's kind of the point I'm making. You will not meaningfully find no-drama. This isn't even just a Linux or a FOSS thing -- it's group project dynamics. It's inevitable in any project not run by a benevolent dictator (and even then...).