I think it might tell us something about the culture there by now. Doesn't sound like it's engineering-driven, even though they still do have a lot of capable

I think it might tell us something about the culture there by now. Doesn't sound like it's engineering-driven, even though they still do have a lot of capable engineers sitting there and atrophying. I also wouldn't rule out that the less capable ones actually believed that the systems they've built are unrootable or something like that.