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MacBook is great hardware, but I really hate MacOS. It feels perpetually cellophane wrapped, and I don't like any of the window management. Finder is particular

by echelon 2mo ago

MacBook is great hardware, but I really hate MacOS. It feels perpetually cellophane wrapped, and I don't like any of the window management. Finder is particularly awful too. You should be able to deeply tweak how window management works, but Mac won't let you do that. I'd run Linux on the hardware if it wasn't a hack.

Fuzzwah 2mo ago
Rectangle solved my macos window management annoyances. https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/ Not involved in dev of this, just a happy user
- MattSayar 2mo ago
  I also enjoy rectangle, but struggle to find a good Finder replacement. Any recommendations?
  - phatskat 2mo ago
    I don't do enough with finder to mind it's existence, but there's always Midnight Commander
    - bifftastic 2mo ago
      Or dired
  - stergios 2mo ago
    Some of these might fit your finder replacement needs. Swift Salamander: https://salamander.codesurfer.ch/ https://salamander.codesurfer.ch/ Rascal: https://tryrascal.org/ https://tryrascal.org/ or brew install --cask chang-07/tap/rascal Forel: https://github.com/lab421/forel https://github.com/lab421/forel or brew install --cask lab421/tap/forel Hyperkey: https://hyperkey.app https://hyperkey.app Vorssaint: https://vorssaint.com https://vorssaint.com Wick: https://trywick.co https://trywick.co Wisp: https://sulemaanhamza.github.io/ https://sulemaanhamza.github.io/..
    - parkersweb 2mo ago
      I’ve not come across Swift Salamander - and it looks interesting (even if the homepage has all the hallmarks of an AI landing page design). Anyone have any experience of it?
- noir_lord 2mo ago
  When I had to use a Mac for work, Rectangle was a life saver since it basically let me replicate manual window management pretty closely to how I've done it on Linux forever, between that and iterm2 it wasn't a terrible experience but man was I happy when Linux was an option again. I just don't get on with OSX, I can use it, it's "fine" but it never feels like home the way Linux always has, mostly because I generally run with defaults for everything but when something does bother me I can poke it on Linux until it's how I want it to be. Linux simply assumes you know what you want and lets you have it, Apple assumes they know what you want and based on how much love OSX gets from some folks they seem to get that mostly right for those people.
  - thewebguyd 2mo ago
    > based on how much love OSX gets from some folks I can't speak for others, but my preference for macOS basically boils down to "it's a *nix system that can run the commercial software I need, with a lot of nice little attention to detail features" I'm trading friction in some areas, for the removal of friction elsewhere. Plus macOS has little niceties like readline key bindings in every text field OOTB, pleasant font rendering (on retina quality displays), and all the "ecosystem" features. I use universal control between my mac and iPad daily, AirDrop, universal clipboard, and airpods auto device switching, etc. I don't pretend it's a perfect OS, it's far from it, but I willingly accept the tradeoffs and find ways to work around them to get the other features I want.
- w0m 1mo ago
  This is a solid summary of Apple to me. Generally great hardware (outside of when they fuck up the keyboard or for ~5 years or something), and you have to piece general usability in from a myriad a third party apps while hoping Apple doesn't generically decide to lock out whatever API they're relying on unceremoniously.
sicktriple 2mo ago
What in particular do you find hacky about Asahi? I've been daily driving Asahi Fedora for about 8 months on a 13" M1 MBP, a significant portion of the project has been upstreamed to the kernel at this point, so the bar is set very high. The most significant compromises I've encountered have to do with Fedora's aarch64 repos, nothing to do with Asahi itself.
Hammershaft 2mo ago
I find MacOS miserable even if the hardware is good. I can vouch for Aerospace, it brings i3 windowing to MacOS well.
Lio 2mo ago
I like Linux and used it as my daily driver for a long time but I find I’m addicted to macOS’ ctrl-scroll zoom feature as my eyesight deteriorates. I’ve not found anything that works as smoothly for Gnome. So I keep going back to macOS with Rectangle to solve its UX issues.
biorach 2mo ago
> I'd run Linux on the hardware if it wasn't a hack. It's a hack in a good way and this is a really bad reason to not run Linux.
curt15 2mo ago
This post sure ruffled some feathers judging from its downvotes.

by echelon 2mo ago

Fuzzwah 2mo ago

Rectangle solved my macos window management annoyances. https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/ Not involved in dev of this, just a happy user

MattSayar 2mo ago
I also enjoy rectangle, but struggle to find a good Finder replacement. Any recommendations?
- phatskat 2mo ago
  I don't do enough with finder to mind it's existence, but there's always Midnight Commander
  - bifftastic 2mo ago
    Or dired
- stergios 2mo ago
  Some of these might fit your finder replacement needs. Swift Salamander: https://salamander.codesurfer.ch/ https://salamander.codesurfer.ch/ Rascal: https://tryrascal.org/ https://tryrascal.org/ or brew install --cask chang-07/tap/rascal Forel: https://github.com/lab421/forel https://github.com/lab421/forel or brew install --cask lab421/tap/forel Hyperkey: https://hyperkey.app https://hyperkey.app Vorssaint: https://vorssaint.com https://vorssaint.com Wick: https://trywick.co https://trywick.co Wisp: https://sulemaanhamza.github.io/ https://sulemaanhamza.github.io/..
  - parkersweb 2mo ago
    I’ve not come across Swift Salamander - and it looks interesting (even if the homepage has all the hallmarks of an AI landing page design). Anyone have any experience of it?
noir_lord 2mo ago
When I had to use a Mac for work, Rectangle was a life saver since it basically let me replicate manual window management pretty closely to how I've done it on Linux forever, between that and iterm2 it wasn't a terrible experience but man was I happy when Linux was an option again. I just don't get on with OSX, I can use it, it's "fine" but it never feels like home the way Linux always has, mostly because I generally run with defaults for everything but when something does bother me I can poke it on Linux until it's how I want it to be. Linux simply assumes you know what you want and lets you have it, Apple assumes they know what you want and based on how much love OSX gets from some folks they seem to get that mostly right for those people.
- thewebguyd 2mo ago
  > based on how much love OSX gets from some folks I can't speak for others, but my preference for macOS basically boils down to "it's a *nix system that can run the commercial software I need, with a lot of nice little attention to detail features" I'm trading friction in some areas, for the removal of friction elsewhere. Plus macOS has little niceties like readline key bindings in every text field OOTB, pleasant font rendering (on retina quality displays), and all the "ecosystem" features. I use universal control between my mac and iPad daily, AirDrop, universal clipboard, and airpods auto device switching, etc. I don't pretend it's a perfect OS, it's far from it, but I willingly accept the tradeoffs and find ways to work around them to get the other features I want.
w0m 1mo ago
This is a solid summary of Apple to me. Generally great hardware (outside of when they fuck up the keyboard or for ~5 years or something), and you have to piece general usability in from a myriad a third party apps while hoping Apple doesn't generically decide to lock out whatever API they're relying on unceremoniously.

sicktriple 2mo ago

What in particular do you find hacky about Asahi? I've been daily driving Asahi Fedora for about 8 months on a 13" M1 MBP, a significant portion of the project has been upstreamed to the kernel at this point, so the bar is set very high. The most significant compromises I've encountered have to do with Fedora's aarch64 repos, nothing to do with Asahi itself.

Hammershaft 2mo ago

I find MacOS miserable even if the hardware is good. I can vouch for Aerospace, it brings i3 windowing to MacOS well.

Lio 2mo ago

I like Linux and used it as my daily driver for a long time but I find I’m addicted to macOS’ ctrl-scroll zoom feature as my eyesight deteriorates. I’ve not found anything that works as smoothly for Gnome. So I keep going back to macOS with Rectangle to solve its UX issues.

biorach 2mo ago

> I'd run Linux on the hardware if it wasn't a hack. It's a hack in a good way and this is a really bad reason to not run Linux.

curt15 2mo ago

This post sure ruffled some feathers judging from its downvotes.