I had to hunt this, but the classic design perspective of the ipod vs zune by Joel https://youtu.be/e-blUcmpW1s?list=PLcIkt5s7w8D0ywp0CBmNFWRTFZic3pWNn&t=168 h

I had to hunt this, but the classic design perspective of the ipod vs zune by Joel https://youtu.be/e-blUcmpW1s?list=PLcIkt5s7w8D0ywp0CBmNFWRTFZic3pWNn&t=168 https://youtu.be/e-blUcmpW1s?list=PLcIkt5s7w8D0ywp0CBmNFWRTF... At the end of the day Apple got design and Microsoft didn't and it showed in their sales.