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Calling Swift middle class and that they were possibly paycheck to paycheck is laughable. Her father had a huge role to play in her success with his business d

Calling Swift middle class and that they were possibly paycheck to paycheck is laughable. Her father had a huge role to play in her success with his business deals and would largely be considered upper middle class if not higher. If anything, Taylor’s story reinforces the idea that families with wealth offer easier paths in life for their children.

alexpotato 1mo ago
IIRC he worked for a large financial services company (Merrill Lynch?) and was able to transfer to the Nashville office so that Taylor could be closer to the music scene.
Upvoter33 1mo ago
No offense, but "the idea that families with wealth offer easier paths in life for their children" - like isn't this obviously the case? The amazing thing about America is that there are paths for those not as wealthy, but of course they are harder, as much as we might not want them to be... no?
- selcuka 1mo ago
  > isn't this obviously the case? It is, but people often act like it isn't and everybody has an equal chance. Therefore it is necessary to frequently restate the obvious.
  - mlrtime 1mo ago
    "equal chance" Nobody is claiming this or ever should. The claim is that there is real proof of "success" from dirt poor to middle|upper class with these music entertainer examples. Nothing ever will be equal chance, and that shouldn't really be the goal [depending on how it's defined and implemented].
- Ma8ee 1mo ago
  > The amazing thing about America is that there are paths for those not as wealthy The US is not special in that regard, and in fact not even particularly good at it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index
  - mlrtime 1mo ago
    The thread is about Taylor Swift, arguably the most successful music entertainer of all time. The parents with upper|middle class gave a boost, but you absolutely cannot buy this level of stardom and hasn't been replicated anywhere that I know of. America is 100% the place to be rich or poor, if this really is your goal, from Dolly to Jackson or Swift.
    - Ma8ee 1mo ago
      > hasn't been replicated anywhere that I know of. Did you hear about this little band called the Beatles?
wyclif 1mo ago
I'm from Pennsylvania and a proverbial stone's throw from where Taylor Swift is also from. Trust me when I tell you that there's nothing "middle class" about her. Her parents are wealthy and this gave her a big boost into the entertainment industry, with lots of expensive coaching, music lessons, and trips to Nashville.

alexpotato 1mo ago

IIRC he worked for a large financial services company (Merrill Lynch?) and was able to transfer to the Nashville office so that Taylor could be closer to the music scene.

Upvoter33 1mo ago

No offense, but "the idea that families with wealth offer easier paths in life for their children" - like isn't this obviously the case? The amazing thing about America is that there are paths for those not as wealthy, but of course they are harder, as much as we might not want them to be... no?

selcuka 1mo ago
> isn't this obviously the case? It is, but people often act like it isn't and everybody has an equal chance. Therefore it is necessary to frequently restate the obvious.
- mlrtime 1mo ago
  "equal chance" Nobody is claiming this or ever should. The claim is that there is real proof of "success" from dirt poor to middle|upper class with these music entertainer examples. Nothing ever will be equal chance, and that shouldn't really be the goal [depending on how it's defined and implemented].
Ma8ee 1mo ago
> The amazing thing about America is that there are paths for those not as wealthy The US is not special in that regard, and in fact not even particularly good at it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index
- mlrtime 1mo ago
  The thread is about Taylor Swift, arguably the most successful music entertainer of all time. The parents with upper|middle class gave a boost, but you absolutely cannot buy this level of stardom and hasn't been replicated anywhere that I know of. America is 100% the place to be rich or poor, if this really is your goal, from Dolly to Jackson or Swift.
  - Ma8ee 1mo ago
    > hasn't been replicated anywhere that I know of. Did you hear about this little band called the Beatles?

wyclif 1mo ago

I'm from Pennsylvania and a proverbial stone's throw from where Taylor Swift is also from. Trust me when I tell you that there's nothing "middle class" about her. Her parents are wealthy and this gave her a big boost into the entertainment industry, with lots of expensive coaching, music lessons, and trips to Nashville.